Monday, June 19, 2017

Pasadena Star News: When a Pasadena police officer becomes a gun dealer

Chief Sanchez in his junta hat
Mod: Another intriguing development in the Vasken Gourdikian Pasadena PD gun running scandal, as conducted out of a garage in Sierra Madre. This time the excitement is in the form of a Pasadena Star News editorial that ran in our local daily newspaper of record a couple of days ago. Just in case you have joined that vast community of folks who wouldn't pick up a newspaper at gunpoint (so to speak), here it is for your perusal. It is big news, and we could be close to some actual arrests in this case. Arrests that could go to the top of The Rotten Rose's police department.

When a Pasadena police officer becomes a gun dealer: Editorial (Pasadena Star News link): Citizens don’t give up their fundamental rights if they become police officers — including the constitutional “right to keep and bear arms.” But, outside the firearm needs that come with their jobs, neither do they suddenly gain new Second Amendment rights allowing them to become major armaments dealers without any restrictions on what guns they may sell and to whom they may sell them.

Given the scandal swirling through the Pasadena Police Department after Lt. Vasken Gourdikian was put on paid leave earlier this year when federal authorities raided his Sierra Madre home and confiscated guns that he had a large side-business selling, Chief Phillip Sanchez was certainly correct last week to put a halt, temporarily at least, to a department practice that encouraged such arms dealing.

There is every reason to believe that in the future the halt ought to become permanent.

What the department is suspending is a practice of issuing letters that help officers bypass 10-day waiting periods to purchase guns in their private lives. The move came less than a week after it was finally announced that Gourdikian, an officer very much in the public eye in recent years as deparment spokesman and a top aide to the chief, received seven such waivers over a four-year period.

Augusto Pinochet's junta hat
He was apparently selling quite a large number of guns out of his house — dozens of them between 2013 and earlier this year, when his online handle at a firearms website ceased activity after the raid by agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. Some of the guns he sold were not available to the general public, and required the waiver that was so often signed off by his superiors.

Again, peace officers have rights to legally buy and sell guns, though the public might wonder, given their line of work, how many extra firearms they want to see on the streets. And here it’s clearly a question of quantity. Gourdikian has not been charged with any crime, and the investigation has been very hush-hush. But over the last four years, he offered to sell more than 70 firearms and gun parts, including 45 pistols, 15 rifles — some of them semi-automatic ones — and three shotguns. At least 63 were later marked as sold.

The Police Department’s waiver policy deserves a thorough review, and future restrictions are in order.

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56 comments:

  1. This one will get a walk and slap on the wrist, sad part of this story is these people who arrest people with weapons every day are involved in putting guns back on the street and endangering the public along with fellow police officers.

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    1. If it was just the boobs that run Pasadena conducting the investigation, then I would agree with you. However, it is the Feds calling the shots. My take is all bets are off.

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    2. The ATF would not put all this manpower and effort into this ending with a raid unless they were trying to make a point. Careers will end because of this. Pasadena has no say in how this will end...and it won't be a slap on the wrist either.

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    3. There is some serious denial out there on this issue.

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  2. What's up with the hat?

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    1. Testosterone levels

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    2. You are in the presence of El Supremo. Fear my hat.

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  3. Some one at the ATF, or with political connections in Pasadena, got a bug up their a$$.
    Maybe the ATF is working their way closer to finding guns from Fast and Ferious, maybe they've been traded back across the border and various officers such as Gourdikian have been caught in the cross hairs of the government attempting to clean up their "covert" $hit out on the streets.
    Why else would the ATF, put so much man power on this?
    Some thing doesn't smell like a rose, in this investigation of the Pasadena officer.

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    1. I think the Feds are involved because Gourdikan broke a few laws. Local law enforcement did not do its job.

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    2. Everything is a conspiracy these days.
      Or at least extremists think so

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    3. Deep State is out to get Trump.

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    4. Pinochet wore it better.

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    5. Does Sanchez wear knee-high black leather boots with riding pants?

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  4. If you all recall there was a Gun / weapons buying and selling scheme in Northern California a while back also the only difference was a slight modification took place to convert some of them to full auto? Who knows maybe the FEDS got a tip that the Pasadena P.D. officers had decided to switch over to full auto business sales?

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    1. Gourdikian is a fool. He actually put his name on a gun selling website with info on how to purchase illegal weapons from him. He also charged extremely high prices and had no Federal license. The only reason arrests haven't been made so far is the Feds haven't decided how many of these knuckleheads to arrest.

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    2. @8:36 you're an idiot. And spreading false information. Shame on you. It's not illegal to sell guns. Even guns "off roster" are not illegal to sell. As for your asinine comment about extremely high prices... what well of ballistic wisdom did you draw from to come to that idiotic conclusion. The Knucklehead is the mug you look at in the mirror.

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    3. Sorry ba-foon. These are well established facts. Why do you think the Feds arrested this boob? Because he has baldness issues? Go back to reading your latest issue of Gun Bugger and leave the knowledgeable people alone.

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    4. Uh oh, gun nerd in the house.

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    5. Nobody was arrested dumbass. The only fact is that there is an investigation. Everything else is speculation. Which in Sierra Madre is good enough for death by firing squad apparently.

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    6. You're right. He was suspended from his job and all of his guns seized in a raid on his home. But he hasn't been arrested yet.

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    7. You haven't been arrested yet either. Or have you

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  5. 7:22am. Our tax payers money hard at work, sending the ATF out to collect guns, due to paperwork not being submitted in a timely manner.
    This was an Obama, last minute law. That administrations approach at removing guns, because guns kill people.
    Criminals can keep their guns, if they like them; sound familiar!
    Criminals aren't required to fill out the correct paper work, when trading weapons; they are exempt.
    Remember, guns kill people; not people killing people. It's the law.

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    1. I don't recall anywhere seeing that the PPD has the right to decide which laws they care to enforce and which ones to break. No points for blaming this on Obama, either. Just because you can't post a reasonable argument is no excuse for going Milo on us.

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    2. Uh oh, meaningless moron in the house.

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    3. Right! Only a racist conservative would blame Obama for a crooked police scandal.

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    4. Or a troll crybaby.

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  6. I have often heard that the closest thing to a criminal is a cop. Makes sense to me. The problem probably is that there is more to this story that we don't know. Probably will never know.

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  7. 8:39am. In your "wisdom" why don't you get off subject and continue to give insight as to why the US border is not protected from law breakers crossing every Day? Is it the Federal Government picking and choosing which laws to enforce? I believe that the agents try to do "their" jobs, but then the local jurisdictions refuse to enforce. Obama, did deport more lawbreakers than Trump, but the media spreads fake news.
    What's your daily take on these "laws"?
    Iam looking for a comparisons for unbais enforcement of "laws".

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    1. Keep looking.

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    2. Off-duty U.S. Border Patrol agent found guilty in fatal Hemet shooting over speeding vehicle

      Why so many gun nuts become cops? Not like firefighters are out hosing everyone.

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  8. Corrupt doctors write bogus narcotics prescriptions for cash. Corrupt Chiefs write off roster gun purchase permission slips for cops who then sell those guns on-line.

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  9. And Adam took a bite from the Apple....

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  10. 12:02pm. Why "you" drink so much koolaid?

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    1. Why, you jealous?

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    2. Good one, kid, good one. You win this time...

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    3. Oh look it's the troll that calls everyone kid.

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  11. The NORTH KOREANS KILLED OTTO WARMBIER.
    He has just died, his family by his side; he and his family are at peace.
    NORTH KOREA REGIME, BE DAMNED.

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    1. North Korea lost close to thirty percent of its population as a result of US led bombings in the 1950s. US military sources confirm that 20 percent of North Korea’s population was killed off over a three period of intensive bombings:

      “After destroying North Korea’s 78 cities and thousands of her villages, and killing countless numbers of her civilians, [General] LeMay remarked, “Over a period of three years or so we killed off – what – twenty percent of the population.” It is now believed that the population north of the imposed 38th Parallel lost nearly a third its population of 8 – 9 million people during the 37-month long “hot” war, 1950 – 1953, perhaps an unprecedented percentage of mortality suffered by one nation due to the belligerance of another.”

      Here's a chaser of reality to go with your koolaid.

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    2. I don't see how that gives the butcher Kim family the right to kill American prisoners 65 years after the Korean war.

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    3. Because you do not see is why the retribution and the terrorism and all the blowback from around the world will continue.

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    4. Wow, image if Korea carpet bombed the US and killed a third of our country… 100 million people. I guess I'd still be pissed 65 years later

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    5. Yeah. But that never happened.

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  12. Apparently we didn't do enough. The tyrant survives.

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    1. Failed foreign policy that's for sure.

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  13. 2:21pm. Year Zero, according to you. I hadn't realized that you are Pol Pot incarnate.
    Thanx for the reality check.

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  14. Living in a self absorbed bubble will keep "you" a kid forever.
    Must be "nice" to live out your existence in La La Land.

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  15. All your base are belong to us

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  16. Except "you" keep the Governor, he belongs to you.
    $195,000.00 a year for Governor Jerry Brown; keep up the taxing of California citizens Jerry, your worth it, so "your" minions say!

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    1. Still haven't found a job yet? I hear Trump can open the coal mine… That could keep you busy

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    2. No coal mines in LA County.

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    3. Exactly...

      Adios troll

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  17. what I don't understand is why Officer Amos is still on the force and why wasn't there a public outcry about having a police officer who freaks out and shoots an unarmed man in the back and subsequently gets promoted?

    as long as he's on the force I'll have limited respect for the SMPD and don't what him involved with anything having to do with my PD

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  18. Troll fail!

    Megyn Kelly’s Alex Jones Interview Had Lower Ratings Than A Game-Show Rerun
    The controversy didn’t translate to viewers.

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