Monday, June 26, 2017

Tomorrow Night the City Council will outlaw for good the commercial selling of Marijuana in Sierra Madre

We've had a lot of fun with this issue on The Tattler over the last few months. From the recently hired City Manager's role in the legalized sale of the stuff in Trinidad Colorado when he was running that city, to the financial pressures causing many cities here in California to sidestep their misgivings about soft drug peddling and get in on the pot boom. Done in order to lighten up their fiscal pension load. Yes, it's always about the money.

The City of Encinitas, where former Sierra Madre Mayor Joe Mosca happily allowed himself to be shoved onto the City Council there by the San Diego County political machine, and without a single resident vote by the way, is now seriously considering industrial scale commercial cultivation of marijuana for fun and beaucoup tax profit. Indications are this is going to happen. Link here for some of the mellow details.

For the record, I agree with what the Sierra Madre City Council is about to do. While I am sure the city could use the tax revenue it would gain by allowing medical marijuana shops downtown, especially when you consider the tens of millions of dollars the city is in the hole to CalPERS, it isn't going to happen. And trust me, they desperately need the money. It would be quite a lot.

However, all indications are they are not going to sell the city out in order to line the pockets of retired city employees. Downtown is a family place, and hundreds of school kids gather there after every school day. What message would it send to them if medicinal marijuana shops were to suddenly open in some of Sierra Madre's plentiful empty storefronts? How about a Weed-Mart at Howie's? Not a good look, right?

If allowed to do so, these shops would open in a heartbeat. Here is how tomorrow's City Council action on this issue is described in the staff report for this item (link).


It really doesn't look like anything approaching the legalized sale of marijuana is going to happen here. And it shouldn't. It is a nasty drug that can have some seriously debilitating effects on many of its users. Especially teenaged kids. If you need medical marijuana, trust me, it is available. Google "medical marijuana + Sierra Madre" and dozens of helpful resources will pop up. Places that will deliver the stuff to your home within the hour. With an illegal smile.

Or just drive down the 710 and read the billboards there for instructions on where to pick some up. Exit numbers are helpfully provided. Consult your doctor to see if marijuana is right for you. There are plenty of them who will write you a scrip for the cost of a visit to their offices. No questions asked.

Not everyone agrees with me, and I don't care

Everybody has an opinion, and they're entitled to them. Some people are more than willing to share their thoughts with you, whether you like it or not. And there are some good arguments in favor of legalizing the local sale of marijuana in California. After all, the voters did just that in a statewide referendum recently. Sometimes votes count.

One such opinion provider would be Frank Girardot, the fellow who used to posit himself as the friend of society's outsiders when he ran the Pasadena Star News a few years back. His perspectives have markedly changed from that apparently easily discarded guise over the last couple of years, and for reasons I personally find a little hard to respect. But that is a story for another time.

Frank wrote a column for the Star News back in late 2009 advocating for legalizing commercial marijuana shops. And while it did run in that and a few other regional dailies at the time, it also appeared on a blog called Toke of the Town (link). Here is how his piece appeared there on December 22 of that year.


So there you go. Two sides to every story.

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64 comments:

  1. Keep Sierra Madre funky; no weed!

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    1. Portland is funky,Sierra Madre is boring

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    2. Kinda sorta

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    3. Then keep Sierra Madre boring.

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    4. I like boring. It's predictable.

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  2. Work hard pay your taxes and it will set you free, I have heard this mantra before and it was on a gate once? Non the less pay your taxes since we the city council got you into this hole but we really know best on how to spend (waste) you money and keep out pension fat and happy just like we will be when we on the council and city government retire on your backs or it that dime?

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    1. The City Council is not a paid position the Council members are elected volunteers. How's the weather in Moscow? Go guard your bridge.....

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    3. You weren't savvy enough to negotiate your own pension??

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    4. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, snitchy.

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  3. Drug shops would make downtown look like a slum.

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    1. Taylors kinda looks slummy

      Thankfully the Kensington spruced the main drag up

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    2. Taylors is a great place. They also don't own the building. That is the property of the old Downtown Specific Crowd. Go talk to those fools.

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  4. I was thinking zone the medical dispensaries to the East Montecito section.

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  5. Honey, I am heading down to Weed Mart to pick up some hindu kush. Is there anything you need?

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  6. You're not crazy: Trump just blamed Obama for the Russian attack that Trump says didn't happen
    http://www.salon.com/2017/06/26/youre-not-crazy-trump-just-blamed-obama-for-the-russian-attack-that-trump-says-didnt-happen/

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  7. Enforcement of 2c.
    Supreme Court rules to partly reinstate travel ban; before the case heads into court.
    The President DOES HAVE the ability to make this decision.

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    1. As long as it jibes with the constitution he does- but he's a racist a-hole like you, which is why it keeps getting shot down no matter how hard he disguises it

      Just like trumpcare

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    2. Go buy your own damn insurance...freeloader.

      She lost, get over it.

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    3. That make you and 'she' both losers.

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    4. Every advanced democracy in the world provides health insurance to its citizens. One of the reasons so many businesses now manufacture products in Mexico is the government there takes care of health care costs. It isn't just the lower wages. American retrograde politicians force our corporations to pay for the health insurance of their employees. This makes it much harder for them to compete on the world stage.

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  8. East Monticito is zoned for Manufacturing/Mix Use.
    Pot Heads are, mostly good with:
    1. Napping.
    2. Consuming snacks
    3. In ability/difficulity with concrete thoughts/verbiage.
    This does not "fit" the definition of "mixed use", under the zoning codes.

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    1. Mixed up use.

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    2. Actually it does.Were not talking about the clientele, we are talking about the proprietors when we talk about zoning. It's Montecito btw....Spanish...

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    3. You be never known potheads to manufacture anything... except a mess, and music that they think is awesome

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    4. Guess you've never heard of Bill Gates,Barack Obama,John Kerry,Oprah Winfrey,Clarence Thomas,Bubba Clinton,George Soros,Dubwa Bush, etc,etc,etc.....

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  9. Pots been sold in this town for decades, get over it.

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    1. I don't think too many people have a problem with that, and the city council is even going to allow groovy heads to grow up to 6 plants in their yards just as long as they don't make a show of it. I think what many do have a problem with is turning downtown into some crass commercial pot trading district. A redlight district for weed.

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    2. Arnold's has a decent selection of pots

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  10. It would certainly help the restaurant trade and sweet shoppes.

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  11. We've already got a dispensary, right? Dr. Sami's. Or at least that's what the sign would suggest.

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  12. I think I would like to open a pot shop downtown. I'm going to call it The Herbal Lobotomy.

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  13. 10:12am. That's what is allowed under what was voted in, 6 plants, personal usage; no Fed interference.

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    1. Actually allowed under State law not Federal. Trumps boy JeffeyBo could make problems

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  14. 10:18am. You must be an investor, or live in the expensive Alzheimer housing located on Sierra Madre Blvd.
    Not sure what business the Kensington pays out in taxes, back to the city; would you know?
    Or is it that "you" just like pretty shinney objects to stare back at you, while you sit in the park smoking your reefer?

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    1. Dear Trumptard, I'm 1018, and I don't care what the Kensington's tax status is, I simply said it's a parent makes Main Street look much nicer.

      Idiot

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    2. Is it the heat that is making you so cranky today?

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    3. I like the Kensington,and I like old people,they are nice and cute and tell good stories if your patient.They also make good pets,kinda like children fun for a short while.

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  15. SO you prefer the abandoned nursing home that was there? Are you averse to buildings that serve the community and look nice. What exactly is your point? It's not a non-profit so it pays taxes. Even non-profits pay property taxes. Your comment is indicative of the pointless nonsense that can be found on the tattler.

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  16. I do believe there was another misplaced statement concerning city council member's salaries and retirement funds, along the lines of money well spent on a over priced under staff SMPD rather than the 22% more and cheaper coming from the LACSD. Yes the city council member's of Sierra Madre do not do it for free, https://patch.com/california/sierramadre/sierra-madre-city-council-salaries-below-state-limits

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    1. Yes they make $55 a month that's $2 a day and no retirement. Are you familiar with what things cost in America? $50 a week may be a salary in your Mother Russia,not here. You're an idiot troll. fifteeeen doleras a week is nothing

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  17. Keep the truth in plain sight at all times other wise a crooked politician will steal it away. http://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/sierra-madre/

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  18. A large portion of the Sierra Madre business district receives very little in the way of business tax.
    There are church properties zoned as non profit and there is the Alzheimer nursing home; all located in the downtown BUSINESS DISTRICT.
    You may ask why "your" taxes are so high? How else can the Sierra Madre BUSINESS DISTRICT survive?
    Residential living should be located in Residential areas of town.
    A business similar to Howies would have been a better fit in the BUSINESS DISTRICT OF SIERRA MADRE.
    Put down the MaryJane and clear your thoughts as to the growth and future of downtown; unless you are the subscriber of "bedroom" community-based non taxed "boring" town.

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  19. The kensington is a business genius, and no I would not want it in a residential area. Churches are also crucial in our community. A business like Howies does also belong in the business district, but last I checked, half wits like yourself cried like dirty diapered babies to stop the "atrocity" of developing the corner of baldwin and sierra madre blvd. Which was a beautiful project ideally suited for the town. Now we get to drive several miles into neighboring towns to buy groceries. Well done. At some point you need to realize that your zeal for preservation must be balanced with the needs of a growing town. Yes growing, because if it does not, it becomes insolvent and unable to meet the needs of the citizens. ergo, crazy water rates, UUT taxes and parcel taxes. So tired of the myopic banter that is this site and the angry few who feel they need to control everything and everyone. The 40's, 50's and 60's are neither the zenith of this town, or something to be preserved in place. Some buildings are worth saving, which means major work, but not everything. Especially not the old howies

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    1. What Measure V stopped was a condo development of 80 units on that corner, with underground parking.

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    2. It's actually the old Roberts, where is that green frog sign anyways?

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  20. I had absolutely no symptoms or warnings that I had cancer. In March 2007 I suddenly felt like I had diarrhea but it was all blood and I went to the ER. I bled profusely through the rectum for an hour or so until they got it stopped. The doctor did a colonoscopy and found a stage II cancer, i was devastated when my doctor broke the sad news to me because i thought that was the end for me because i have heard so much news about how cancer have stolen away the lives of patients. With time i developed a 'belly' when all my life my abdomen was flat. I was still in my search for a cure after undergoing chemo and radiation thrice Until a friend of mine directed me to doctor Amber and advised me to try alternative medicine, which i did because then my doctor was no longer helpful at all and i had given up on myself. I got the herbal medicine which was relatively small in size, which i took for 10 weeks. For the past two and half years, I have had two additional colonoscopies and two CT.

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    1. That's nice I guess? Kinda confusing but interesting and pointless.

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  21. 2:38pm. Why don't you check in with city hall, the Planning Department. Ask how the Kensington is zoned. All information is public.
    Ask how much tax the city has received since the build.
    The suites don't count as bedrooms, so residents can not be part of population count.
    But these residents use EMT'S and Fire Department services.
    The small business office on location, counts as " business"! What square footage of tax is paid back to the city?
    The Kensington is non profit.
    Just like Churches are non profit.

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  22. 2:38pm. Must be a realtor.
    Probably upset that she/he can't rent out pop up pot shops in town.

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  23. Good news only 22,000,000 Americans will loose insurance with trump care,and the richest of the white folk will see billions of tax dollars transferred to them. The uneducated,illiterate trump supporters, the elderly and disabled will be hurt most.

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  24. The headline on Fox will be trump saves 2 million peoples health care.

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  25. 5:22pm. Iam kinda hoping the GOP will let Obama Care stay.
    That way the Dems get the blame when everyone loses their insurance!
    PS. having healthcare is not a right

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    1. But an increasing majority believe it to be

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  26. You mean 22,000,000 new subsidizes ObamaCare users were created in the great Democratic giveaway.
    Nothing in life is free.

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    1. Blah blah blah. God you are a bore. Same crap over and over again.

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    2. You just called it a giveaway
      But people pay into it

      Idiot

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  27. Once again more false rumors are being spread about money here in Sierra Madre, http://www.cityofsierramadre.com/cms/one.aspx?pageId=250379 along with http://www.cityofsierramadre.com/cityhall/elected_officials and all their retirement programs for themselves. http://www.cityofsierramadre.com/UserFiles/Servers/Server_212309/File/Classification%20Plan%20&%20Salary%20Matrix.pdf

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