Tuesday, August 1, 2017

A Pasadena Star News Article That Appears to Push the "Move The Library" Agenda Only

Mod: The Pasadena Star News has finally gotten around to publishing an article on the topic of selling off the Sierra Madre Library's property and moving all of its books and historic horseshoe nail collections to in back of the YAC, but it is really kind of disappointing. Rather than telling both sides of the story, it reads a lot like an advertisement for what the Friends of the Library have been pushing. Here is a portion of that article for your reading eye, with a helpful link that will take you to the whole thing if that is what you actually want.

Will Sierra Madre’s library finally get upgrade, or move to new location? (Pasadena Star News link): The city’s aging library building could cost the city millions, whether it stays in the same location or not.

The City Council voted last week to approve using funds raised by the Friends of the Library for professional architectural and appraisal services as part of a proposal to move the library to the current youth activities center.

The Friends authorized the expenditure of up to $100,000 for the services.

Friends President Margaret Quigley said the nonprofit group has been raising and saving money for more than 30 years with the aim of contributing if funds for an expansion and renovation became available.

The Friends’s position, as it has always been, is to do what’s best for the library as an institution,” she said. “If (moving) seems to be what’s best for the library, we support that. We don’t want to trample on any other community group, but right now, we don’t see any other way to keep the current library building, short of a tax.”

Staff reports show about $1.4 million is needed to do basic upgrades and repairs, including fixing dozens of potential violations of the American with Disabilities Act, the federal law that requires facilities be able to accommodate everyone.

“We’re one ADA lawsuit away from closing the library,” said Rich Procter, a Library Board of Trustees member.

A complete upgrade and expansion to the current building, 440 W. Sierra Madre Blvd., to serve the increasing number of patrons and programs offered, is expected to cost about $3.8 million, according to city staffers.

Mod: So is it $1.4 million or $3.8 million? Either number seems like a lot of money just to build some cement wheelchair ramps and rewire the place. You might want to click on that link and read the rest.

So what happened to "National Night Out" in Sierra Madre?

Mod: So it is suddenly August 1st, and traditionally this is the evening when everyone is expected to go hang out and talk with the Sierra Madre Police Department about all things law enforcement and public safety. But apparently that won't be happening here this year. What follows is an only marginally informative article from the Mountain Views News, one that doesn't explain very much.


Mod: Despite what you have read above, other cities will be holding National Night Out events. Here are some of them. Maybe you should go to one of these?


Mod: I am not sure Officer Oronoz is leveling with us. It sounds to me that perhaps the SMPD would just rather take the night off.

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69 comments:

  1. The SMPD will be commemorating National Night Off.

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    1. If you see something, say something. But just not tonight.

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    2. 6:55, You're making me laugh, lol.

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  2. I can't tell who is selling who a bill of goods here. We have the City Council and the Library looking into this Preservation moment in our history and there is one guarantee and that is, the Home Owners are going to pay for this? Are they selling our history away and making us pay for it too?

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    1. All about the city's debt. If Sierra Madre taxpayers weren't shelling out all of that money paying for City Hall's mistakes there would be plenty of cash to fix the library.

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    2. There's only so many Libraries the City can sell, and it can't even come close to paying off the real debts of the City... and once it's gone, it's gone. Pathetic

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    3. This is all about mismanagement of the library. It's called demolition by neglect. Margaret Quigley is the head of Friends of the Library. Why is she allowing the property to be demolished and sold to a developer during her watch. Nice friend indeed.

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    4. My question is what else in the city is being allowed to fall into such a state of disrepair that the property has to be sold off to a developer. This is a very slippery slope.

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    5. Margaret Quigley and the Friends of the Library are responsible for this. They also solicited donations under false pretenses. I would never have donated if I knew the money was going to be used to fund the due diligence needed to demolish the library and sell the property off to a developer. They should give the money back. Why did they also allow the property to reach such a state of disrepair that the only way to save the library is to demolish it to clear the way for a developer to build a bunch of condos. I smell a rat.

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  3. I was thinking the same thing! ha!

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  4. Me thinks Ms. Quigley has a bias. Where is the other side of the story?

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    1. We need to know who wants that property.

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  5. Once the Friends/Council authorized spending $100,000 ,they will have an investment in the plans, and will only want to go forward toward the YAC. Sneaky, feels like the Friends/Council are ready to relocate before the information- plans are gathered.

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    1. "You know, we have already invested $100,000 in this, blah blah blah ..."

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    2. Mark my words. This is a done deal. The library is gone and we have of all people the Friends of the Library to thank for it.

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  6. Is there a "National Night Out" block party in your neighborhood?

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  7. I am guessing no one has heard the term of 'throwing out the baby with the bath water' before? fix the problems with the library one project at a time instead of selling it all off to wash your hands of any potential ADA lawsuit etc..

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  8. Bill of Goods you say? Who in their right mind would want the Library next to the YAC? Our Library is in a nice park like grounds and we would want to move it to the east side? What are these people smoking, I hope logic rules out here. Come to think of it, I would have given them the right answer for only $50,000 ,,,, ah heck, for our community I would do it for only 5,000.

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  9. LA Faces City Services Bankruptcy: Where Did the Money Go?
    http://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/la-watchdog/13705-la-faces-city-services-bankruptcy-where-did-the-money-go

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  10. The fix is in. The library building is gone. There is an unnamed developer lurking around somewhere. When a city starts selling off its property assets, you know we're in trouble. We know where city staff stands on this issue. They will recommend selling off everything so long as there remains enough money to fund their ever increasing salaries and pensions. The motivations of the Friends of the Library folks is tougher to figure out. The fact that they are willing to fund the due diligence needed to demolish the library perhaps gives some indication of their true colors. The real question to ask us is how the library reached the point that it needs millions now to fix it. Why weren't the Friends of the Library shouting from the rooftops when only say a hundred thousand was needed. Let me offer a reason why the library was ignored for the past 30 or so years. It's because every last drop of money has been needed to pay the public employees fat salaries and pensions. It's also why our infrastructure has been ignored. You may wonder why the city council ignores these things as well. It's because they don't want to tick off the public employee unions that got them elected and contributed to their campaigns. This is why every city and some states are facing problems. Meanwhile our civil servants retire at 50 and live in a town other than the one they destroyed.

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    1. Yes@7:52, and then they get another job until they reach retirement age! $$$

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    2. Even they know they are too young to "retire". They should be required to work until the age of 65 like the rest of us.

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  11. Why haven't the Friends donated for the repairs all along. It feels like they have let the institution fall into disrepair so they could cry WOLF. We need a new library, we need a new library or else the ADA will get us. And by the way, we have $100,000 to invest in plans for a location that we have already selected. Feels like a SLAM dunk to me!

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    1. The library also needs some new "friends".

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    2. The library also needs some new "friends".

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  12. Are all these police officers in uniform being paid to "staff" this National Night Out? It's just another scam to fatten their payrolls.

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    1. Paid staff?, Most likely, but we don't have to worry about that in Sierra Madre. No one is having a block party!

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    2. They have more important things to do. There's bagpipers out there!

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    3. First I've heard about NNO block parties. Who was supposed to be organizing that?

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  13. Fix one problem at a time at the Library... it's only taken 20 years of patching problems to get here

    Repair the rusty water pipes one at a time... it has been the cities battle cry for generations
    Have any bloggers signed up for National Night Out in your neighborhood? No... why not?

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  14. It is not a community conversation, it is a public relations campaign.

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  15. If the city continues to contract out most of the youth programs, and if the city can't manage the pool when that contract comes up for renewal, then this city has become a generation of contracting outside its scope of competency; what happened?

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  16. How do you find out exactly how much the Friends of the Library have in their account?

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    1. Go to Guide Star. Lists tax returns for all non profits in Cal.

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    2. Gross receipts $93,957
      Assets $689,850

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    3. That should be more than enough to build wheelchair ramps.

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    4. 9:58, agreed, that should be enough funding to hire a person to push the wheelchair up the ramp too!

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  17. When Sierra Madre Elementary School no longer walks the children off site and over to the Library, the head count of Library patrons will give the City Council a better idea of public use.
    Technologies and community events are what the majority of Libraries have embraced.
    Where the "Friends cash" will do the most good, is where it should be applied.

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    1. You are right on. Don't forget if you leave the building and renter, you are counted twice.

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    2. I think the Sunnyside School House children also walk to the library. Do they know what is happening to the Library?

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  18. 8:36am.
    If no one has signed up for the National Night Out block party, then Sierra Madreans Feel secure.

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    1. Nobody in sierra Madre knew that is what is going on this year. Pasadena has over 20 block party events. The lazy ass SMPD just didn't feel like doing anything.
      http://ww5.cityofpasadena.net/police/wp-content/uploads/sites/57/2017/07/National-Night-Out-2017.pdf

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    2. I'll bet the City didn't want to pay the overtime. I thought the UUT covered National Night Out!

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    3. I just googled San Dimas and Altadena NNO. They have community events too. Is there any City in the San Gabriel Valley that doesn't have a NNO Community event?....besides Sierra Madre that is.

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  19. Mod,

    Just to clarify, where did the $1.4 million amount come from? The change in amount certainly doesn't pass the smell test, does it?

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    1. Your guess is as good as mine.

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    2. Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. What I meant was...where did the original quote of $1.4 million come from? Was it mentioned at a council meeting? Or stated in a staff report? Or...?

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    3. According to the Pasadena Star News article quoted above the $1.4 million figure comes from a staff report.

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  20. The National Night Out article was is in last Saturday's Mountain Views News. How is one supposed to plan a block party in 3 days as well as notify the SMPD? The City had plenty of time to let the public know about N.N.O. Guess it is like the library. We will let you know the last minute (72 hour notice) . Add to that the library item was the last item on the agenda calendar for the evening. That means it was presented around 10-10:30 at night. Oh my gosh, do you think they didn't want the public to attend. Such transparency!

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    1. I'm embarrassed for the residents of Sierra Madre regarding National Night Out. When I see what other local cities have to offer their communities for NNO, it seems we have a Cheap City. I find this all very embarrassing and extremely disheartening .

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    2. The SMPD just wasn't interested in doing any NNO events this year. The way this is set up is an obvious attempt to shift any blame to the residents themselves. They didn't set up any block parties. They don't care. It is a lot like their focus on whether or not you locked your doors when a robbery occurs. It is the first question they ask when they arrive on the scene. Why? So it can be established that the fault is yours. Crime is the fault of the victims.

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  21. Why are the Friends paying for it and not the City itself?

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  22. It's embarrassing that poster's questioning NNO in Sierra Madre expose themselves as pampered, can't stop blogging or their lives are busy and no time for Council meetings. No wonder these individuals are out of touch with the rest of the town.

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    1. Have a donut. It will calm you down.

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    2. I'm pretty sure being in touch with the rest of the town requires a lobotomy.

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    3. 1;16, How can one call themselves pampered when every adjoining community has a NNO? For the extravagant UUT and water costs /taxes we pay here in Sierra Madre, one would expect to have the basics that all the adjoining communities have. And as for no time for Council meetings, I was present in City Hall for the Darling House giveaway. And I was there for the original Darling House debacle some time ago. To assume that individuals are out of touch and have no time for Council Meetings is an incorrect assumption on your part!.

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    4. Nothing pampered about it. National Night Out is a good idea, but this year it is not happening here. That is unfortunate.

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    5. No block parties.....no big deal. If you want to talk to a cop, go to the police station or run a stop sign. Just saying.

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    6. Heck, if I had a block party, the very last thing I would want is a drop in visit from the Police Dept. They would probably cite ya for any minor infraction.

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    7. 1:16, We are not out of touch. Why, because we read the Tattler . We're informed. Where else would you read that the Library is possibly going to be sold? It was a breaking story from the Mod! Not from the Mountain Views News.

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    8. 1:16 hates any free discussion of the issues.

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    9. National Night Out seen as way to 'unify the community'
      http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/aurora-beacon-news/news/ct-abn-national-night-out-st-0802-20170801-story.html

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  23. Anyone from this site schedule a neighborhood NNO? Just saying...

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    1. Again, the notice for that was this weekend's Mountain Views News. Just saying...

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  24. Another question about the $100,000: how was it determined that it would cost this sum to do a study of what it will cost to repair the existing library or move it to the YAC with all the costs at the new location? Was there any requirement that bids should be sought for the company that will do this assessment? Or did the idea come with the company for the study already decided upon?

    Stand back and realize no matter what it is determined to cost, it will cost way more than that. No one can assure you that there will be no cost overrides!!!

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    1. Think the Friends of the Library offered UP TO $100,000 for gathering information for YAC library move. UP TO being the key words.

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  25. National Night Out did not occur last year either, but that was because we had the Sheriff at night and the day time, part time Sierra Madre PD did not come free, they would have needed to be paid overtime. Citizen safety be damned.

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  26. You asked, "So is it $1.4 million or $3.8 million?" The answer is in the article.

    "$1.4 million is needed to do BASIC upgrades and repairs..."

    "A complete upgrade and EXPANSION TO THE CURRENT BUILDING ... is expected to cost about $3.8 million..."

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    1. Still doesn't make sense. Whether our not an expansion is done is the justification for selling the property?

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