Wednesday, October 25, 2017

My Humble Suggestion? Boycott The Library Postcard. Just Tear the Damned Thing Up.

Video link here.

Mod: Here is your assignment. Watch the "Library Survey" portion of last night's City Council meeting. It is probably the most ridiculously fraudulent thing that I have ever seen come out of Council Chambers in years. Or at least it is in my opinion.

The "Library Survey" portion of last night's City Council meeting starts at 18:15, just like it is pictured in the above screenshot. YouTube puts these things up instantly. You can watch it right now.

Two salient points that I will drop here:

1) No vote. You didn't get one. Far too hard to control I suspect. You cannot be trusted to vote in your own interest. The City Council knows so much more about what is good for you than you do.

2) The "Library Survey" postcard questions will be drawn up by the Board of Library Trustees. A group of folks that has already unanimously decided that in order to save the Library it must be bulldozed, the property beneath it sold and all of the books they claim to care so much about stashed in an athletic facility located near Heasley Field. Which, as you are probably aware, is a baseball field located next to a swimming pool.

And all at the cost of $3.9 million dollars.

You'd trust the Board of Library Trustees to author a completely unbiased postcard, right? The City Council does. And they certainly don't have any agenda, correct? Of course. After all, this is all being funded by you, so I'm sure they want to be fair.

You might not agree with me about boycotting the postcard. You might think that would allow the bad guys to win. And that is fine. You might even be right. You certainly are entitled to that opinion.

But first you have to watch the "Library Survey" portion of the City Council meeting. The video is available on YouTube and I posted the link above. You can easily scroll to 18:15 on that video and just watch the one portion of the meeting.

After you've watched the video then you can tell me I'm wrong. But you can't do that unless you have first seen it.

OK? That is all I ask.

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50 comments:

  1. Attention; this so called 'Library Survey' is nothing more than a mindless exercise in keeping the natives busy to let the clock run out on complaints & the legal system while 'we' (city government) undermine their efforts to stop US from doing what we want to do (city hall) crazy's.

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  2. Ridiculous. How better to describe this particular council. This is the first real tough decision that has faced this group, what do they do?
    Jumble words, shuffle papers and pass difficult decisions off.
    Mayberry (!) they were rushing home to catch the first World Series?

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    1. Judging by the meeting video the entire thing took 46 minutes.

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    2. Disagree, 6:22. The library extravaganza is bad governing, and the never-ending UUT was bad governing, but this council got rid of an incompetent city manager and found a much better one.They are way better than the many bad councils before them.

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    3. Why was this item up for consideration on the same night as the first game of the World Series?

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  3. If it wasn’t clear before, it certainly is now: the fix is in.

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  4. John Capoccia asked the question on everybody's mind about whether it is appropriate for the Board of Trustees to craft the survey questions in light of their being unanimously in favor of moving the library and demolishing the building. The fact that he so cavalierly accepted the weak answer tells me that the fix is in. John Capoccia knows better and usually is pretty good at pursuing a tough line of questioning. He deliberately let it slide so we know his position on this issue. The people need to rise up but they aren't so the demolition will go forward. This could be easily stopped with a public outcry but where is the public and where is the outcry?

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    1. If no one takes the issue seriously enough to give time and energy, and maybe some money, to the protest, there won't be one. Pretty simple.

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    2. Who was the woman from the city addressing these issues for the city council? She just read the agenda report.

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  5. Someone made a very good point here yesterday. Why is it automatically assumed that the money from the sale of the library property must go to the YACbrary? Those millions of dollars should be used for other things as well. Repairing the water mains and pipes being one.

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    1. Thank you. The last thing we need is letting the Library Board decide how to spend a few million dollars of our money.

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  6. Nobody made a public comment last night. Is this because nobody cares, or the community has decided talking to this city council is futile?

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    1. It's because no one has stepped up to organize a public response.

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  7. Who cares about having a library any more? Sounds like the trusted trustees cant be trusted to do something for the kids. Looks like they are looking for a better place for their little group to meet. Frankly who needs a library any more any way and the trustees are proving that. Get rid of the Library, look how much money the city would save and beside, we have two libraries to choose from out side of our city. In some cases people in Pasadena have to travel further to get to their own library than we do to get to theirs. Disband the library and put the money into the safety of our city.

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    1. plenty of libraries near by, get rid of ours and fix the pipes!

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  8. I have a library in my hand held device so I never go to the Library.

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  9. It's not the councils fault that their special interest groups are pushing them for a move. CC has to respond to the people so, PEOPLE, let your voice be heard and not let the rich trustees group dictate to the city what they personally want, get out and be heard if you like the Library where it is.

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  10. Could be that no one from the public attended the City Council meeting. People will say that they lead busy lives, don't we all?
    The mailers will be a suprise to most in the community, some may even fill them out and mail them back.
    The same people that have tried over the years to "change" Sierra Madre into a BIG city, are the same that will craft the questions.
    Another colossal waste of money and time.
    The Library was run into the ground from the Board and their snobbish ways.
    Everything else has been condensed, the Library is next.
    But "we" all lead busy lives.
    Could be that a wave of nostalgia will prevail when the survey is returned and the Library will remain where it stands and a "community room" will fall back to the Library Board to reconfigure.

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  11. Boycotting won't do any good - it will be assumed that the card was lost by an unengaged resident (ya know, the 95% of residents)

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  12. Watched the video. The usual garbage. I noticed no one seemed to care enough to go and make any comment. How typical! The questions will not be simple yes or no questions. What a waste. Leaning more toward closing the library everyday!

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    1. And where were you,pray tell?

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    2. People have become alienated from their city government. They don't participate. When the city council wants to communicate, they send a post card.

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    3. 8:44A You’re right! For over a year I went CC and PC meetings. I made my feelings known through e-mails. All it got me was Capoccia telling one of his constituents that I was crazy. The times I went, few if any people showed up. The only time anything said mattered to the CC was when Preserve called out the troops. As far as the PC, they really don’t need me to watch them, they are very good on their own. CC not so much. It’s just that it so defeating to listen to these whack jobs!

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  13. $1.3 million to fix the library, or $3.9 million to move it. Why is this math so difficult for some?

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  14. Face it, the vast majority of residents in town are oblivious to all of this. Their idea of reaching out to their neighbors is posting a picture of their dog on Facebook and then checking back to see if anyone "likes" it. Democracy doesn't work when the population is too stupid to sustain it. Last night was an example of democracy not working. Another would be the unfolding disaster in Washington. We as a people are failing.

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    1. Alas no dog here,I do have a cat and some pumpkins I can post? Democracy is not supposed to work.That is why it does work.

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    2. Nobody likes your pumpkins.

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  15. Democracy in DC is working; if you disagree then go buy "What Happened"!
    The Sierra Madre Library Trustees have failed.
    The Library sits on city owned property; the money from the sale needs to be used for various city needs.
    If the monies paying down debth cant be used from the sale, there are plenty of additional areas in this town that need to be addresses. The Library Trustees don't manage the town.

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    1. When a candidate who lost by 3 million votes becomes president anyway, democracy has failed.

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    2. "Ain't the first time won't be the last" seems to work just fine 'till we got this traitor.

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    3. In Washington this morning some guy got into the Senate chamber screaming "Traitors!" and throwing Russian flags at the old white dudes. He was arrested, of course. My kind of guy.

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    4. Do we know what the post card questions are going to be yet? Or is that a secret?

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  16. Ask your favorite Library Board of Trustees what they will write as questions to be sent out to the public.

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  17. The City should close down the Library and save the city government some money and use that money on the cities infrastructure, This city needs to stop wasting taxpayer money and use funds to fix water pipes and crumbling roads

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    1. That would be a good postcard question.

      "Should the money raised through the sale of the Library property be used for water infrastructure and road repair, or moving the Library to the YAC?"

      I'll bet most people would vote for infrastructure.

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    2. Maybe if they don't put that question on the postcard people could write it on there.

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    3. Excellent idea.

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  18. 9:29am. That was yesterday's news!

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    1. Love it! Clayton is a true patriot.
      PROTESTER RYAN CLAYTON THROWS RUSSIAN FLAGS AT DONALD TRUMP AND MITCH MCCONNELL ON CAPITOL HILL
      https://theintercept.com/2017/10/24/protester-ryan-clayton-throws-russian-flags-at-trump-and-mcconnell-in-capitol/

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  20. Maybe everyone should send the postcard back saying "I'm mad as hell...."

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  21. The city needs to leave a portion of the postcard blank so people can write in their thoughts. If the city council really wants to know what the residents think, then they should give them this opportunity to speak.

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  22. Here's a timely article about the the Angriest Librarian's take on closing libraries. Course language warning.

    https://www.salon.com/2017/10/25/angry-librarian-goes-on-brutal-twitter-rant-after-journalist-suggests-closing-all-libraries/

    Yes, I am aware of the irony of reading on my hand-held library an article about keeping brick and mortar libraries open.

    Yes, I am aware of the irony of warning about language during a time when the self-proclaimed party of individual freedom is working to proscribe 1st Amendment rights.

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  24. You may have a hand held "library." But, you don't go and gather important information by speaking with a librarian when you have to help your child write a 10 page research paper on Justice, or critique Shakespear's comedies, or Edgar Allen Poe, or learn the background information on how Notre Dame was built.

    The library is a place to read and relax. To be exposed to many different printed materials all spread out in front of you, so you can research topics for a forensic meet. To read to children.

    It is amazing that those with the Kindle, etc., are forgetting that is not how they learned to read. Our future does depend upon well read informed people. Put down your electronic stuff and go invest in time in the library.

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  25. You can find out far more information about writing a "10 page research paper on Justice, or critique Shakespear's comedies, or Edgar Allen Poe, or learn the background information on how Notre Dame was built" with a 10 minute search of the internet than you can from any librarian. And the smart librarians will show you how.
    The entire known universe of human knowledge is online, 6:42. You might like the library for sentimental reasons, but physical libraries are only faint echoes of what can be found online.

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  26. 2:28 here. I posted the article, 6:42, because I agree with it. But I do, indeed, have a hand held library in my hand.

    7:18: The notion that the "entire known universe of human knowledge is online" is a bit of an overstatement. Even if it were true, the difficulty lies in finding the sources you need given all the detritus that pops up despite the most carefully crafted queries. (Imagine how difficult research would be be in physical libraries if the card catalogue and its modern electronic catalogue analogue contained reams of advertising and misleading results directing you to shelves containing even more advertising and irrelevant results.)

    Another problem is that much of the information online is subject to copyright, requiring a purchase, or otherwise is secreted behind pay walls. Other materials may be out of print and simply not available online for purchase.

    My default approach has always been to review as many sources as possible, so I see physical libraries and the internet co-existing and complementing each other. This is the approach I've taken when advising my child for research projects.

    And as a sentimental notion, everyone should have the opportunity to aimlessly wander the stacks and experience the serendipity of discovery.

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    1. I do that at Vroman's in Pasadena.

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