Monday, October 16, 2017

NFL To Take Up Protestor’s Cause

Mod: I have never been the world's biggest football fan. As far as I am concerned the NFL season doesn't officially begin until after the World Series is over. If then. But that could soon change. Because now the NFL is starting to show all of the signs of becoming an effective - and dare I say even courageous - defender of free speech in this country. And at a time when many of our less than glorious political so-called leaders have been strangely mum on the topic. Or, as in the case of the President of the United States, its outright enemy. Any port in a storm, I say. Let freedom ring.

Trump’s Bullying Backfires - NFL To Take Up Protestor’s Cause (Daily Kos link): Donald Trump epitomizes incompetence that he attempts to conceal with his big mouth as if bloviating nonstop lies and absurdities will convince Americans he is anything other than a monumental buffoon. When the Oval Office oaf took up the cause of defining patriotism as denying other Americans their Constitutionally guaranteed rights, not only did he reveal his fascist tendencies, he pushed an American institution to declare that they would not join his tyranny against mostly African American athletes.

The fascistTrump was certain he could “force” the NFL to restrict its players’ constitutional rights by running his mouth and calling socially-conscious players “sons-of-bitches” and demand they be “thrown off the field.” There were even rumors that next week the NFL was convening a meeting with owners to do as Trump ordered and punish mostly African American players who are unwilling to forfeit their constitutional rights.

However, the only thing Trump running his big mouth accomplished was doing precisely what Colin Kaepernick began over a year ago; use the NFL to bring attention to racial and social injustices destroying America.

Trump has been hoping to distract Americans from his corruption and incompetency by continuing to portray Americans exercising their constitutional right as being deliberately disrespectful to a song, the country, veterans, active duty soldiers and the American flag. On Friday he kept his big mouth running and addressed the issue again.

"Before watching a football game, you want to see those players be proud of their country. Respect our country. Respect our flag. And respect our national anthem and we think they will. We certainly hope they will."

Trump is a petty piece of work if he believes, and he does, that standing up when a song plays informs a person’s pride, patriotism, and respect for a country or a flag. If Trump wasn’t a know-nothing idiot, he would understand that this country began as a protest against his type of tyranny during a so-called ‘tea party’ in Boston Harbor in 1773.

The nation’s founders and Constitution’s Framers made “freedom to protest” a guaranteed right for all Americans for all time, and like everything about America, Trump hates free expression and wants it to stop under threat of retribution. It’s why he called on the NFL to get the “sons-of-bitches” off the football field for exercising their First Amendment rights.

Loudmouth Don likely thought the NFL owners would follow the lead of Dallas Cowboys owner and threaten to bench any player who dared exercise their constitutional right of free speech. On the same day Trump accused players taking a knee of disrespecting everything American because they displayed their pride to live in a country” that gives them freedom of speech,” the NFL made an announcement that it was not going to do what this fool demanded.

Instead of strictly obeying the fascist Trump, the NFL has decided that it will focus on how best to use its powerful forum to do exactly what the protestors are taking a knee for; bring national attention to the racial and social injustices roiling American society.

According to Reuters, NFL spokesman Joe Lockhart said the League’s commissioner Roger Goodell:

“Has a plan that he is going to present to owners about how to use our platform to both raise awareness and make progress on issues of social justice and equality in this country.”

Mr. Lockhart said that instead of “throwing the sons-of-bitches” off the field, or “forcing” mostly African American athletes to give up their 1st Amendment rights like Trump demanded, the League is joining the players’ crusading to make social change. He said there will be discussions focusing on using the NFL players and clubs “broad platforms” to actually make progress on “issues of equality, social justice, and criminal justice reform.” Lockhart said:

“These are issues that are important to our clubs, issues that are important to our players, issues that are important to the communities in which we play.  That’s what we are discussing. So for everyone who has speculated over the last few days that somehow there is a proposal that is set for a vote on Tuesday or Wednesday you are speculating. Those who are reporting it as fact are reporting it incorrectly.”

The announcement by the NFL reflects the desire of the NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith according to a statement he made last week. Mr. Smith related that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and New York Giants owner John Mara, chairman of the NFL’s management council, informed the players’ union that “they would respect the Constitutional Rights of our members without retribution.” Trump doesn’t get it, but that is precisely what it means to “respect America.”

The NFL announcement Friday also fulfilled one of Smith’s desires; He said:

"I look forward to the day when everyone in management can unite and truly embrace and articulate what the flag stands for: ‘Liberty and justice for all' instead of some of them just talking about standing. We look forward to continuing our talks with them on this very issue."

Based on the NFL announcement Friday, those upcoming talks will address what the flag stands for as well as address the issues the players are protesting.

Mod: To me the greatest desecration of all would be denying the principles our flag stands for. And one of those principles is the right to speak as you please, whenever you please. Link to the rest of the article is up top.

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110 comments:

  1. United we stand, divided we fall. If we can't stand for the flag and let our freedom of speech show somewhere else then I feel the disrespect for all who have died for our freedom. The flag has always been a symbol we stood up for, some even getting up from their wheel chairs. By disrespecting our flag I think we are showing the world that Russia is having an affect on America and the division has started.

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    1. I kneel when I pray. I stand, hand over my heart for our flag and anthem?

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    2. The NFL is returning more than $700,000 of taxpayers' money that was paid to teams for sponsored military tributes.

      After being criticized for "paid patriotism," in which money came out of the armed forces budget for various measures of public recognition during games, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said that the league would pay that money back.

      In a letter written to Senators Jeff Flake and John McCain on Wednesday, and disclosed on Thursday, Goodell said that -- following an audited review of 100 marketing agreements from 2012 to 2015 by accounting firm Deloitte & Touche -- teams were deemed to have received $723,734 for acts of sponsored patriotism.

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    3. 5:48 - Freedom of speech should happen wherever the speaker wishes. That is why it is called freedom. You are entitled to your opinion, but I can't help thinking you might be happier in Russia.

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    4. It looks like the NFL is fighting back against becoming designated as a no freedom zone.

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    5. I think 5:48 needs a safe place. I'm sure he would also wail about Milo not being able to speak at Berkeley. It is called situational hypocrisy.

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    6. 6:46 - if that's what you really think, then try this experiment. Tomorrow, when you go to work (supposing that you actually work), gather as big an audience as you can during company time and on the company's premises, and initiate a protest over something that you think is wrong with this country.

      Then come back here tomorrow and let us know what your boss had to say about freedom of speech and you using his/her time and money to pitch a fit.

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  2. I wonder how many military, former and present, get down on there knees?

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    1. I dunno. Though I do know that many died to defend freedoms you either hold in contempt or just don't understand.

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    2. I suppose free of speech includes your freedom to misspell words regularly.

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  3. No true blooded American would get down on there knees in such disrespect.

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    1. There their they're

      'True blooded' + 'blood and soil' = white supremacist code words.

      Look it up

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    2. Spoken while carrying a brightly lit tiki torch.

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    3. I am former military and i kneel during it..i fought and almost died for our constitutional rights, not a piece of cloth which represents freedoms that black peole dont have, or for a song which is racist in history...i fought for freedom..if you want to demand or force people to salute a piece of cloth...N korea is a good place.

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  4. Great article today. If you think Trump and the Cowboys owner are in the right, read "Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk," or watch the movie - about phony patriotism.

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  5. My Constitutional right and putting my money where my mouth is, will be to not support these overpaid and misguided athletes.
    They can protest anything they like, on their own time.
    Socialism is working its way into these simpletons minds, at least with the Boston Tea Party the drunken simpletons were protesting having to pay too much for tea, after trespassing on board an English ship, dumped the tea into the harbor.
    Their statement was made, the price of tea went up; commerce and free trade was born.
    I will always stand up for my Country and my flag.

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    1. Thank you, comrade. Your recitation of Moscow talking points is flawless.

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    2. 6:38...your continuous use of "comrade" and telling folks to move to Moscow shows how little you know about anything.

      This blog couldn't even exist in Russia. There is no freedom to complain about how things are there, particularly in the government.

      The moderator gets up mighty early each day to post up stuff that gets discussion going. What you post is ignorant drivel at best.

      If you don't have enough respect for what the mod is providing here, then just SHUT UP and save bandwidth.

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  6. The flag is just a symbol so what better way to get attention that we have a problem in the United States than by kneeling during the pledge of allegiance?

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  7. Did you hear about the Redskins stop and frisk "celebration?" I didn't watch it as I am boycotting this sport, but golly it sure bolstered my point.

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  8. 5:48 and 5:53 - Russia IS having an effect on America thanks to our lame-brain so called president. Reread the article. What we stand for is being able to fight for justice for ALL. You both sound like the white people in the South who told Rosa Parks to go to the back of the bus, to get out of the restaurant. I just had a conversation with my 7 year old grandson about Jackie Robinson and how different baseball would be today if he hadn't had the courage to play. How is that so different? Oh yeah, and explain to me about the "fine folks" who are Neo Nazis who created havoc in Charlottesville...words of our prez.

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  9. The NFL is yet one more great American institution under assault by the Trump administration.

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    1. NFL a great institution? Hahahah Come on it's just a bunch of guys playing a game.

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    2. Then why has the President of the United States spent so much time talking about it lately?

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    3. Because his elite corporate friends have money to lose, and because it excites his extremist white supremacist base

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  10. This is a good topic to hash out. The athletic kneelers have insisted from the begining that their statement is a protest of the statistically proven disproportional police brutality directed toward minorities - never a protest against the 'country' 'military' or 'flag'. Colin K. specifically consulted with a military vet on how to best make this statement respectfully.

    The argument that this is an unpatriotic act was created by rightwing extremists to alter the debate and suppress discussion of the militarization of the police, long-standing racial bias, and also the corpora taxation of the military.

    Thanks mod. This debate needs to continue in the name of social progress.

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    1. What about the disproportionate number of black athletes in the NFL? Why not protest that?

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    2. Ahh. Now we get to the real issue. What do propose, 8:19? Affirmative action for Caucasian athletes?

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    3. Sure why not, it's in other workplaces. Why not sports. Everyone gets a trophy.

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    4. If we have to have it in every other situation, why not there.

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    5. 8:19 - my first reaction is to assume you are racist against black people. But I am willing to set aside this feeling if you can provide verifiable facts to support your claim. Professional sports have a long history of excluding blacks. Can you demonstraye it is now actively done against whites?


      If you don't respond I'll assume again that you're racist trash.

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    6. The rules only protect minorities.

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    7. So is that why you are not playing in the NFL?

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  11. If this action annoys any and all wacko supporters of the dictator dumb j trump then so be it that fat-blob could get on his knees if he had to anyway. This is a protest to those crazy's helping d.j.t...

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  12. 6:46, if this path continues you/we may be living in Russia and I don't mean we moved. People need to see the big picture.

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    1. Too late- they already have trump and his corrupt corporate cronies in the whitehouse

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  13. 6:51, has totally missed the point or was thinking what they were going to say regardless of what they read. Like sheep being led ,,,,,

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  14. On the correct side of this point of contention. http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/14/opinions/what-nfl-protests-are-not-about-patriotism-washington-opinion/index.html

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  15. I guess if what the NFL players are doing is freedom of speech, then I can hardly wait for the checker at the market to tell me their beliefs or at any store I shop. After all they have the right to let you know their feelings and like NFL players and movie stars they don’t have the media to make their words famous. Of course the Wal-Mart checker would be fired but I doubt if any of you would care.

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    1. Does Walmart or the public force their employees to salute the flag and recite the national anthem before every work shift?

      Idiotic comparison

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    2. “Force?” Flags are symbolic of something. In the 60’s they used to burn them, rip them, trash them for the traditions that were valued. Saluting the flag or singing the National Anthem has never been done at places like Walmart! You’re the idiot!

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    3. The '60s were over half a century ago, dude.

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    4. Dude, you’re probably a product of the 60’s. A lot of what goes on today is the result of the 60’s. Think outside the box for a change.

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  16. More Trump demagoguery. The NFL response is appropriate.

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  17. Slippery slope here-do employers who refuse to serve policeman a meal or a gay person because of their beliefs fall under the same freedom of speech as the NFL?

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    1. Not the same

      Athletes aren't refusing their service to anyone

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    2. They should have those same rights, but you must be political correct.

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    3. 9:42 Why isn’t it the same. If you put up a sign that says,”No shirt, no shoes, no service,” are you going to say it is a matter of health? Well, how about the Hep C epidemic downtown? The homeless are allowed what they choose to do. The price of that is Hep C? Who is stopping them?

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    4. Hep C is bad. No doubt about that. But what does this have to do with today's discussion?

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    5. 12:31 The right to say and do whatever you want is not a guarantee. By making freedom of speech so PC, it allows many sub-cultures to make choices that affect all of us. The homeless want to live on the street. There were voices that advocated for that. So in turn many defecate and urinate on the street causing disease. The NFL players taking a knee is not the same, I agree. I just feel they’ve stretched the issue of free speech.

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  18. How about some statistics of the birth place of military and police officers that do or have worked in those positions?

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  19. Get past all the petty talk and look at the divide and conquer process that is taking place here right now. Our country is in for a change and it's not a good one. Wake up and water the roses.

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    1. These people are awake- that's why they're kneeling

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  20. I feel that the players are bringing back praying when they take a knee, the media just got it wrong again.

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  21. 6:46am. You feel it's your freedom to stand up and yell fire in a crowded movie theater, when there is no fire?

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    1. 6:46 I thought 8:12's strawman argument was the dumbest thing posted today until I scrolled down to your attempted "analogy." Not too much critical thinking going on in your noggin, huh?

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    2. 11:42 So it’s okay for you to deny 8:12 the right to voice his opinion without you trashing them?

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    3. Sometimes you have to call them like you see them. Tolerating fools and freedom of speech are not the same topic.

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    4. You’re opinion 12:40. I am no longer tolerating you.

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    5. Must be a Republican. They specialize in fools.

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    6. 11:42 here. 12:26 You state:

      "So it’s okay for you to deny 8:12 the right to voice his opinion without you trashing them?"

      Re-read your question. It makes no sense. Let me help: How is trashing what 8:12 says denying him the right to say it?

      Like I said--critical think skills.

      6:46 is free to spout any blather that pops into his cranium. And I'm free to call it blather.

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  22. 7:14am. These players felt so strongly about making a statement on statistics and brutality after calling 911; that these same players waited until President Obama was out of office. How often did President Obama get up and disrespect the men and women in blue? and what was his follow up on change?

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    1. President Obama did no such thing. What are you talking about?

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    2. Troll talk

      Obama held a beer summit with the police

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  23. These "athletes" are not being paid to demonstrate on a televised platform, they should stay in the locker room and kneel, and anyone hired to sing the American Anthem that choses instead to kneel, should not be paid and then should be banned.

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    1. They're not being paid to salute the military either... except when the military pays them to.

      Songet the flag and the name salute out of the ballparks

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    2. 'Anyone that chooses to kneel should be banned'. Wow, what a fascist you are. As if you're standing in full salute when the anthem comes the TV in your living room. Coward

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  24. What do you expect from a privileged RACISTS being a product of a KKK grand-father and the rest of those clan members in is complete Moron tree of genealogy.

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  25. 9:14am. Why are you bringing Hillary and her klan loving mentor into this discussion?

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    1. Why do you lie?

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    2. Democratic party...father of the klan.

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    3. Republican Party - the Klan's current party of choice.

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  26. These football players are entitled to to their opinions, and to the non-violent expression of them. Plus, it's important that they act on what they believe in when they are young - their brains will most likely be destroyed by the "sport" as they age.

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  27. That some are so shocked to see people exercising their right to free speech is sad. It should be so common that it seems like everyday life.

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    1. Thankfully we have the constitution to protect us from our fellow citizens.

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  28. 7:32am. Good one....

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  29. 9:44am. Your so right! These kneeling players should be holding beer mugs; not to be out done by a Rose Garden soiree.

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  30. So right 9:59am., unless you live anywhere else but the United States! Then you get picked up by the authorities, never to be seen again.
    So go ahead and disrespect the flag and those that gave you that freedom.
    Marxist.

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    1. 10:23: you're so afraid it's clouding your thinking.

      Freedom of speech has nothing to to with Marxism. The protest against discriminatory police brutality has nothing to do with 'the flag'. The volunteers in today's military don't 'give freedom' to our citizenry... they merely serve the government which is represented by the citizenry.

      Don't be afraid hear others. You might learn something about yourself.

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  31. Thank you Tattler. Vociferously supporting our American values, lately so much under attack by the President and his enablers/cronies/racist-, fascist-leaning supporters, is more important today than ever.

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  32. 10:54am. Allow me to break down into talking components what you posted.
    1. Marxist/Freedoms. Marxist have none.
    2. Protests againt police and flag; have nothing to do with football.
    3. Volunteers in military don't give freedoms; the 2nd Amendment does. The US Military gives citizenry around the World Freedom.

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    1. 1. You just accused someone of being a Marxist, which is BS

      2. No one is protesting the flag. The national anthem has nothing to do with football

      3. Us military does not give freedom to anyone. And us interference in other nation's affairs causes terrorism

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  33. President Trump and Mitch McConnell joint White House Press Q&A. Reporter asked about Hillary Rodham Clinton's statement that no one has to respect the American Flag. President Trump's response, just another reason why she lost American's confidencein her, she could have easily won the Electoral vote and didn't, her statement about the flag is just one of the reasons as an example, as to why she lost.
    Something to that effect; Google IT.

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  34. Funny how so many who hate freedom of speech/expression resort to the "they're not getting paid to take a knee" argument as though the haters of speech are agents of the owners deputized to ensure that the players don't do anything personal while on the clock.

    If the owners have a problem with players taking a knee, what business is it of the haters of free speech to complain that the owners are somehow being ripped off by their employees?

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    1. Yet the corporations have the freedom to donate company monies earned by the employees to the campaigns of their favorite politicians.


      People wanting to ban our great athletes are thinly veiled supremacists.

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    2. Exactly. Trump has been playing race politics all along. That is all this is. Same old crap.

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  35. Your military hard at work:

    Fort Bragg busted for ‘Spooktacular’ Halloween party with children dressed up in blackface.

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  36. Wouldn’t these athlete’s time be better spent in going to Chicago and doing something about the violence there? If BLM than they need to address the black on black killing. Regulating guns won’t stop it. Chicago has done that. Taking a knee doesn’t help. I’d like to see a little more action from these overpaid boobs.

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    1. You have nothing to add to the conversation.

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    2. Classic red-meat racist troll bait. The police are supposed to protect the people from brutality not worsen it.

      Sounds like you've never been to Chicago either. Laptop loser.

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    3. I heard that exact BS argument the other week- this troll is just cut-n-paste right wing talking points

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    4. None of you add anything to any conversation. Because I don’t agree with you I’m a racist, a troll. I have been to Chicago many times. 1:04 Your remark about police are supposed to protect not worsen brutality is really nonsense. What does that have to do with black on black killing? I could stoop to your level and name call but none of you are worth the time.

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    5. It is getting nutty out today. And if it gets any hotter we'll have popcorn.

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    6. You so called 'black on black' killing is a fake argument unrelated to this debate. That's what makes you a toll

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    7. 4:17- if by saying none of us are worth your time responding to and you won't post here anymore.... I'm ok with that

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    8. 4:17 - don't let the door hit you / where the good Lord split you.

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  37. Flag:text 797979.

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  38. Yeah; Black Lives Matter, Boycotting NFL!!!
    Ticket holders Boycotting NFL!!!
    Sponsers Boycotting NFL!!!
    Constitutional right to end the NFL and watch real football otherwise known as Soccor.

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    1. That's exactly what the swamp wants you to do... boycot what you need to know to keep you suppressed, repressed and depressed. Like in the matrix

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  39. 12:34pm. No NFL kneeling players, burkas, KKK hoods? Any mimes, they use white face.

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  40. The Hub is reporting it is going to be hot today.

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  41. Suckers succor soccer.

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  42. An open letter to white people who are obsessed with black-on-black crime:

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.theroot.com/open-letter-to-white-people-who-are-obsessed-with-black-1790856298/amp

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  43. Trump caught trolling again!

    President Trump said Monday he will declare a national emergency next week to address the opioid epidemic and declined to express confidence in Rep. Tom Marino (R-Pa.), his nominee for drug czar, in the wake of revelations that the lawmaker helped steer legislation making it harder to act against giant drug companies.

    Trump’s remarks came amid widespread reaction across the political spectrum to a Washington Post/“60 Minutes” investigation that Marino helped guide legislation that sailed through Congress last year.

    Swamp hypocrites

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    1. Trump has the empathy of a cockroach.

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  44. Maybe Larry Flynt's $10M offer to get Dump impeached will work ?

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    1. His past cash offer helped end the corrupt military's fake patriotism story of private Jessica Lynch.

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    2. If you dump Trump, you'll get Pence, the Koch's servant. Yikes.
      https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/10/23/the-danger-of-president-pence

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