Monday, November 13, 2017

The City Council Tackles Empty Houses

Mod: Here is an interesting topic that is up for a little sober discussion at tomorrow evening's City Council meeting. Apparently there is some concern about properties in the city that are being left vacant.

Though it is not mentioned in the staff report for this item, the reason for this is often people who purchase these properties as investments do not care to take on the unhappy hassle of actually putting people in them. As rentals, airbnbs, or whatever you might care to imagine. Party pads perhaps. Or homes for exotic pets who require the privacy of suburban living and a pool. Help me out here.

These properties are being left vacant because the remote owners, more often than not people who cannot be seen as being members of the community because they aren't, obtained these wickiups solely as an investment and not a place for anyone to actually live. A practice that first attracted some local attention because of its prevalence in Arcadia, where elephantine McMansions are often built and then left to sit empty.

Arcadia has become a city noted for its unoccupied investment properties owned by people from other locales. Pacoima perhaps. Or Indio-Palm Springs. The fear being it could happen here as well. And perhaps that already has.

Here is a portion of the staff report. You can link to the entire thing here.


By my reading the purpose of this ordinance will be to make the owners of these empty investment cribs show some responsibility for taking care of them. I mean, a little paint every once in a while, plus the attentions of a gardener, couldn't hurt. Right? 

That plus make these absentee owners pay some fees for leaving their houses empty. I guess as a reminder to them, or something. Neighborhoods hollowed out by such investors do damage the interests of those who are actually living in town, so there are victims with needs that really should be protected. 

Plus it hardly makes for a sense of community. Absentee owners are never seen reading periodicals at the Library, or attending Kiwanis meetings.

Of course, the property rights fanatics won't be happy. In their minds you could turn those places into waste treatment facilities and even that would be nobody's business. Upwind or down. How little they seem to care about the rights of those property owners who have have actually lived in town for a while.

What I find interesting is that the authors of this Staff Report didn't dare risk discussing the reasons why so many of these wayward homes are being bought, only to be left empty and neglected. Maybe it was deemed politically incorrect or something. Or they don't want to be viewed as being social critics. At least not in print.

I am sure this will pass unanimously. When was the last time you saw something on a City Council meeting agenda that didn't?

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76 comments:

  1. We’ve got 3 brand spanking new McMansions in our Arcadia neighborhood, all vacant for over a year. Must be full of rats by now. City got their permit fees, so case closed in their minds. School district benefits from the permit fees and double bonus since they don’t have to absorb additional students.

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  2. None of y’all got second homes?

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    1. You mean a house that I have left empty, untended, weed-ridden, rat infested and generally in a deep state of neglect? No. Do you?

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    2. They're not rats. They're Freedom Mice.

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    3. I’ve never seen a rat-infested mansion in Arcadia. Which one are you referring to? Or you’re just exaggerating out of hate?

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    4. They're called Freedom Mice. Please try and keep your terminology straight.

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    5. Almost as funny second time around...

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    6. Sure 11:42, come check out 150 E LaSierra, Arcadia. Careful of the coyotes in the rear lot too. No hate here, buddy, just sick of empty homes. Arcadia used to be a ‘neighborly’ place, no longer.

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  3. Brand new, and empty, or empty empty (tell-tale signs: 2-3 odd cars parked in drive-way, in Arcadia dead lawn/Sierra Madre, hey that's us, old roof with missing shingles, paint sorely needed, wood trim falling off, etc,
    etc, etc.) waiting for McBulldozer--is Arcadia's answer to one wildlife necessity: shelter. These are places in Arcadia with habitat for their "dreaded" coyote population. In Sierra Madre, not so much. We enjoy our coyote population from a distance, 'haze' them off according to Cal Fish and Wildlife protocols and our pets are safe. Neighbors to the abandonment in Arcadia might not realize what lives in the backyard next door as they provide food and water (the other wildlife essentials). It's time: feet to the fire for these absent, derelict-creating property owners.

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  4. Once again those cities finally trying to tackle unoccupied home problem are too late, these cities should face the reality and move with adapting to new forms of taxes to support their cities enormous appetite for money by follow: http://www.sbsun.com/2017/11/12/colton-group-petitioning-to-put-citizen-backed-marijuana-initiative-on-2018-ballot/

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  5. At least in Arcadia the houses are new and gardens kept up. I have an abandoned house in my neighborhood in Sierra Madre that will end up demolished, which the buyer intended all along when he bought the house in 2014. He apparently thought he could tear the house down and build a mansion. He found out otherwise from the city after the sale. Since then everything has deteriorated to the point of falling down. I have complained to the city to no avail.

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    1. an empty house is a quiet house. ENjoy it while you can, you fool!

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    2. maybe you need to trade in your trailer and upgrade

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  6. 7:05 am. See you at the City Council meeting.

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  7. Agenda item posted on the Tattler, thank you.
    The spin, not so much.
    If you do not understand property rights, better for you and your family to rent when you are back in the area.

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    1. I believe the argument is about property rights versus community standards. I think we know where you stand.

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  8. Assigning monetary fees for absentee owners will keep them from allowing homes to deteriorate.
    Keep up the appearance that the home is occupied, then add another fee for a vacant home check by the local law enforcement, a no squatting here allowed ordinance. If family come and go, register and check in; similar to an overnight parking fee.
    Put some monetary teeth into keeping vacant homes, vacant.

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    1. Mitt Romney owns so many homes he can’t even keep track

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  9. 8:02am. YOU are a member of citizenry that kept a white line around Sierra Madre in the 60's and 70's, YOUR community standards. No thanks.

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    1. Uh oh. A member of the "Opposition to McMansions is Racist" front is now amongst us. Here's a question. How come a city with an Asian majority prefers to not elect Asians?

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    2. there’s truth in what you’re both saying

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  10. a lot of these unoccupied homes are the biggest water wasters. and, because they auto-pay their water bill they don't read/care/understand the drought, our water issues, target conservation numbers, which days they can water.

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  11. The city did deal with this issue with the abandoned mess of the old Sierra Madre hospital.

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    1. 8:42, I remember that, too. An owner/wannabe developer was letting the old convalescent home fall apart, and there were discussions about fines & responsibilities. Then Billy Shields appeared, and the Kensington followed.

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  12. 8:31am. I wonder how much the water wasters pay in penalties?
    As long as they are not in arrears and the landscape is under control, I do not have a problem with empty nesters.
    If the property rights of neighbors are being exploited from vacancies, the owners of the vacant home need to be held responsible.
    It will be interesting to hear what type of fees will be allowed.

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    1. Don't glibly misuse the term "empty nesters," the meaning of which is that the chicks have flown but the parents are still in residence paying attention to the upkeep and repair as needed of the nest in question. Not so in the empty Starter Castles in an around Sierra Madre and Arcadia.

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  13. The old Sierra Madre Hospital was a LLC abandonment on purpose.
    It is rumored that the shenanigans group in town were waiting to make their investments back by selling to a higher bidder.
    Measure V required a 2/3rd's vote from residents inorder to build a residential two story retirement into the downtown business district.
    And you ask why another UUT tax; why was the business district changed?
    The eyesore was created on purpose, never paid a fee for being left to deteriorate.

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    1. No it wasn't. And nobody asked why another UUT Tax. Rumors are fun to start and speculate on though.

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  14. "No it wasn't what"? ah, the only un truth/rumor was the higher bidder. The lot had many offers, one from Dr. SAMMY; the amount of purchase price was non negotiable.
    What are you defending?

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    1. I am a defender of the truth "Wherever there is injustice, you will find us. Wherever there is suffering, we’ll be there. Wherever liberty is threatened, you will find… the Three Amigos!"

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    2. Manny, Moe and Jack?

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  15. Great photo of a tiny house Mod.

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  16. What exactly is "the lack of inadequate maintenance"?

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  17. Idiotic supporters of Hannity and the (alleged) molester of teenaged girls smashed their Keurig coffee makers to protest Keurig pulling ads from Hannity's show. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hannity-fans-smash-keurigs

    Wouldn't it be great if a car company or maybe a home building company pulled their ads. Smash away fools!

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    1. Huh. I guess now they have to buy new ones.

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    2. The GOP is nothing more than a cult now.

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    3. Where does Mr. Coffee stand on this issue?

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    4. IDK but I'm buying sledgehammer call options.

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    5. Poor fools, rendered utterly impotent by their corporate political masters. Whipped by fear and anger every day of their lives, they take it out on others but hurt themselves more.

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    6. It's the alt-right war on appliances. Hide the Mixmaster.

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    7. They will be executing an Electrolux at dawn tomorrow. Firing squad is what I hear.

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    8. Keurig CEO apologized to Hannity. He had been Media Matters scammed. Hannity will be replacing coffee makers/giving away 500 coffee makers! Keurig will continue to $upport Hannity.

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    9. Just for laughs I checked around to see if it is true. There is no news story anywhere corroborating your claim. You're just another useless troll making crap up. Idiot.

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  18. 10:43am. I heard they were returning Keurig's in large numbers, but burning football jerseys and sending the ashes to the football league.
    Mr. Coffee makes a great coffee maker and I think McDonald's coffee tastes just like Starbucks, far less expensive.

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    1. Not everyone has the altitude of a critic

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    2. True. Most critics are tall.

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  19. 11:44am. Why didn't you mention Mr. I want everyone else to change the climate, Al Gore?
    He owns monstrously large homes and won't make carbon footprint exchanges for his lifestyle.

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    1. In 12:40's mind, Al Gore's carbon footprint excuses Hannity's support of a pervert who (allegedly) likes to put handprints on teenage girls. Sick.

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    2. what TF are you even talking about?

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    3. And 1:26P where are your comments about the many groupings of the illustrious Joe Biden?

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    4. What does Joe Biden have to do with Traitor Trump? Are you ADD?

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  20. Trolls get trumped again!

    President Trump's pick for health secretary previously served as a high-ranking executive at a pharmaceutical company that repeatedly hiked the prices of its drugs, doubling the U.S. list price of its top-selling insulin over the five years he served as a company president.

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  21. Traitor trolls exposed:

    #BoycottKeurig is the top hashtag promoted by 600 accounts associated with the Kremlin, according to the Alliance for Security Democracy, a bipartisan initiative of the German Marshall Fund. The group, which aims to expose Russian efforts to affect U.S. politics, was cited by Newsweek.

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    1. Traitors do what Putin tells them because coal mine jobs.

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    2. The alt-right are slaves of Putin. A Fifth Column of traitors that belong in Guantanamo along with the rest of the terrorists.

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  22. I believe the Podesta Empire is failing, that's what happens when you trade and deal with the Clinton's and their kind of liar and thieves.

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    1. Man, the Tattler trolls/foreign agents are running amuck today:

      On October 7, 2016, WikiLeaks started to publish thousands of emails reportedly retrieved from Podesta's private Gmail account, some of which contained controversial material regarding Clinton's positions or campaign strategy.[34] Podesta and the Clinton campaign did not confirm or deny the authenticity of the emails.[35][36] Experts investigating the leak, including a private security firm called CrowdStrike, claimed to have tracked the hacking tools used, and claimed that a Russian hacking group had accessed Podesta's account.[37] Podesta said that Russian intelligence officials attempting to influence the presidential election in favor of Donald Trump were behind the leak.

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    2. The Tattler has an international following.

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    3. And This
      https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-wikileaks_us_5a0a1277e4b0bc648a0d431e?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

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    4. Stone cold traitor.

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  23. Amazing how overnight, without a shot fired, we now have a Vichy government beholden to Putin, with an army of VGOP Keurig smashing, alt-right collaborators working to solidify Putin's hold under the likes of Trump, Pence, Bannon, Hannity, Limbaugh, Sessions, etc.

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  24. I like Borscht, Stugis Cavier with a side of onions and crumbled hard boiled eggs, Black Russians with an extra shot of Russian Vodka on the side.
    Nothing wrong with Russia.

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    1. Memories. It wasn't that long ago you guys were all about the weinerschnitzel and sour kraut, right?

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    2. There’s something wrong with the way you spell, which proves you’re no caviar connoisseur

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  25. The world is a smorgasbord, the sooner you accept this, the sooner you may obtain inner peace and an educated palate.

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    1. Falafel and hummus !

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    2. Beans and cornbread!

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  26. If pervert Moore wins:
    Senate removes Moore;
    Sessions quits as AG;
    Alabama governor appoints Sessions to senate;
    Trump appoints new AG who has no "apparent" Russia conflict;
    New AG fires Mueller and closes investigation or keeps Mueller but severely limits investigation and Mueller quits;
    Putin calls Trump to congratulate him on being absolved; and
    Hannity hosts VGOP traitors' celebration.

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  27. 3:59 pm. How about the cast of Hamilton setting your comments to music and prancing across the stage? Big hit in the inner circle you travel.

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    1. Will Mike Pence be there?

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    2. Time for 5:48 to go oil up the gun under his pillow

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  28. 3:27pm. May I suggest a spoonful of snail caviar; thats land snail to your escargot, for your assumption of connoisseur, to be or not to be.

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    1. And an order of Rocky Mountain oysters to go with your Trump steak

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  29. Hahaha

    Volvo has pulled its advertisements from Sean Hannity's show on Fox News after his coverage of sexual misconduct allegations made against Roy Moore.

    Start smashing them with your coffee makers, trolls

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