Thursday, November 16, 2017

The Planning Commission Tackles Sacramento's New So-Called Affordable Housing Legislation

A view from Liliano Drive.

Mod: There has been an atrociously huge amount of deceptive so-called "Affordable Housing Legislation" out of Sacramento over this last year, and it now falls upon the Planning Commission to interpret all of it from the Sierra Madre perspective. This is just their second go-around on the topic, and I doubt they will get finished tonight.

Below is a portion of the Staff Report for this item. You can link to it in its entirety by clicking here. This will make sober reading for those who have long hoped to maintain the small town character of the Foothill Village. And yes, this is a big deal.


Here is a little myth busting for you. Affordable Housing is actually based on the median income of a city. In Sierra Madre the median income is slightly above $90K, so the earnings of those who would benefit from this new state imposed housing are actually rather high. I doubt very many have been dumpster diving lately.

So despite all of the sanctimony from Sacramento claiming it is all about housing for the poor and the homeless, what this will become in practice is out of character high density housing built in part with public money and sold for handsome profits to people who are prosperous by real world standards.

You can thank the developers and their very active lobbyists in our state capital for coming up with this self-serving little scheme.

A commenter begs to differFYI, income levels for state-defined "affordable housing" are based on area median income (AMI). The area in question is the county, not city. So we use LA County numbers, not Sierra Madre specifics. AMI for LA County is currently $64,300. Under state law there are various levels of affordability. Very low income is 50% of AMI, low income is 80% and moderate is 120%. The qualifying income also increases with family size. See https://la.curbed.com/2017/5/3/15539770/los-angeles-affordable-housing-income-requirements

Mod: That's why they put erasers on pencils.

Affordable housing defined (Sacramento Press link): Everyone wants "affordable" housing. But few people know what that is. The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development has defined affordable housing as no more than 30 percent of a household’s income. That means you shouldn’t be paying more than 30 percent of your income for housing — whether mortgage payments or rent — plus utilities each month.

Levels of affordability are also based on an area’s median incomes. The median incomes for Sacramento County, based on 2009 figures, are $50,950 for a single person, $58,250 for a two-person household and $72,800 for a family of four.

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60 comments:

  1. There are many people currently living in Sierra Madre who would not be able to afford this affordable housing.

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  2. Why do you always dismiss the Democratic Party that has been in charge of California for the better part of a half a century?
    The Lobbyists ( most often members of the Democratic party) cannot push for any more money, unless backed by a Political party.
    The Dems only claim to be there for the little guy.
    It has always been about; show me the money.

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    1. Do you have any cites for this? There have been quite a few articles on this blog beating the Dems about the head for their policies on development. If you are going to lie about my blog, why should I allow you to comment here?

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    2. 4 Republican state senators voted for SB 35. Another two didn't cast votes.
      https://legiscan.com/CA/rollcall/SB35/id/676580

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    3. That’s rich. If you didn’t let people lie on this blog. There would be hardly any comments. If you haven’t noticed, all people do here is have a half baked opinion based on your misleading tripe and their prejudices and then pass it off as the gods honest. And by the way, controlling the comments for content exposes you to litigation for libelous statements, of which there have been a plethora on this blog.

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    4. Speaking of half baked opinions based on misleading tripe, where are your cites, wing nut?

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    5. Of course Democrats and Republicans voted for SB35. They all feed from the same trough.

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    6. Most of the libel suits would be Anonymous v. Anonymous.

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    7. They'd have to wear paper bags on their heads in Court.

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    8. 6:59 should wear a bag at all times.

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    9. You should probably wear a paper bag over your head as a public service.

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    10. So you have no problem when commenters make disparaging remarks about people you disagree with but when it comes to you, you get butt hurt?
      I don’t need to cite anybody when stating my opinion. Which is just that, an opinion. I have in the past tried to make an argument with facts and guess what. You didn’t approve the comment. Hence my opinion that you peddle tripe that is damaging to others, without facts and without the ability for one to defend themselves. But by all means cry about someone calling you out.

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    11. ...and deny the world my glowing radiance? I think not, I’m bound by law to bless people with my mug.

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    12. 11:36 quoth grimly: "I have in the past tried to make an argument with facts and guess what. You didn’t approve the comment."

      So is that why you stopped doing the facts thing? The blog was mean to you? Please. I am assuming you are an adult. Take some personal responsibility for your truth impairment.

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    13. 11:36 translated: He can't back up his BS with facts. So he blames others. Reminds of 45.

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    14. @11:36 If you’re going to try and take a swipe at me at least enter the ring somewhat clothed. I called out the mod for controlling the lunacy that is this blogs comment stream. Apart from having unfettered access to all the comments that have ever been made/blocked/not posted it is all just my word against his. But you would be hard pressed to prove me wrong, when there are so many instances of “comment removed by administrator”

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    15. 12:02 - I have a 4 letter word for you. Bran.

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    16. I think he needs to go to anger management.

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    17. I hope it isn't a drinking problem.

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  3. Sacramento didn't figure in that some developers won't approach various cities if they can not turn a profit.
    With Sacramento's type of math, any developer would be paying Sierra Madre an additional amount of money going back into the General Funds, just for bragging rights that something was built in this town.
    The old adage; it doesn't pencil out.

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    1. If you have potential buyers making $90 grand a year, it will pencil out.

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  4. Myth Buster's say: There is no such thing as 'affordable house' left in California 2017 and beyond. http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/16/real_estate/rising-home-costs-affordability-harvard/index.html

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  5. FYI, income levels for state-defined "affordable housing" are based on area median income (AMI). The area in question is the county, not city. So we use LA County numbers, not Sierra Madre specifics. AMI for LA County is currently $64,300. Under state law there are various levels of affordability. Very low income is 50% of AMI, low income is 80% and moderate is 120%. The qualifying income also increases with family size. See https://la.curbed.com/2017/5/3/15539770/los-angeles-affordable-housing-income-requirements

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  6. Sacramento's HCD has been addressed from the build on Highland ave.
    Sierra Madre is covered for the year; moderate income, low just doesn't work here.

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    1. Yeah, in the planning stage they would be low income. But when these units hit the market developers more often than not switch to market value pricing. They might lose their tax handout, but they more than make up for it in profit.

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  7. If you make $90 grand a year and fortunate enough to find a new build in Sierra Madre from a Developer that quite honestly would have taken a loss on the project; then you should also pick lottery numbers, you'd win.

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    1. If a bunch of stack'n packers are crammed onto the Library property, what do you think the cost of a unit will be? Especially if the developer took tax money to build them?

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    2. There is no outside tax money left. The city would have to give the land to the developer. Even then it's questionable whether a 100% affordable project would pencil.

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    3. Which is why the developer could very well use this leverage to get approval from the city to build this affordable housing project. But, when the building is finished, decide to sell the units at market value. It happens. There are no guarantees.

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  8. Wing nut and cites? How do you base your opinions when you write on your blog? Oh; just answered my own question!
    I'd say you are a bit testy today Mod; could be you woke on the wrong side of the rainbow.

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    1. I provide cites. It is a way that someone might show that their opinion is based on something that actually exists. You, of course, can show none for your claims because you're just making crap up. Either that or you think your dog is talking to you again. Now can we get back to discussing why Sacramento Republicans voted for SB35? I think it might be because they're as corrupt as the other party.

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    2. Maybe 8:14 is Donald Trump.

      Trump Offers Condolences, for the Wrong Mass Shooting
      https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/15/us/politics/trump-offers-condolences-for-the-wrong-mass-shooting.html

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    3. Donald should have a "thoughts and prayers" form speech prepared. That way when the next gun massacre happens he only has to fill in some blanks.

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  9. Could it be that Dems out number Reps by a two to one ratio in the Sacramento house? Could it be that Reps are up for election in a heavily populated Dem district?
    Come on; California is known as the Left Coast of the United States.
    Just as in Washington D.C., the scale of balance is out of whack.

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    1. Out of the 13 Republican State Senators in Sacramento, 6 either voted for or just didn't bother to vote on SB35. Republicans are dying out in California because they don't stand for anything.

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    2. 7 Democrats voted against SB35. Including Anthony Portantino.

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    3. If those 6 Republicans had joined with the 7 Democrats voting against SB35 it would not have passed. Screw you and your party, 6:59.

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  10. Sorry; I thought it was funny.
    Senator Al Franken accused of grouping a paraplegic woman in a wheel chair after she repeatedly asked him to stop.
    Rehearsing a skit, Franken said he needed to do a retake, again and again.

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    1. At least she wasn't 14.

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    2. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy...by by Al...

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    3. AI? As in artificial intelligence?

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  11. 8:28am. The Secret Service dont miss their mark.
    Again, you dismiss Mental Health as a real concern.
    President Trump had jet lag; what's your excuse?

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    1. "Again, you dismiss Mental Health as a real concern."

      True. Trump is nuts. Probably going senile as well.

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  12. 9:44am. Libertarian's dont appreciate wasting tax payers dollars; Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ) just received a Mistrail in Corruption Trial.
    "Just one friend helping out another"!

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    1. When hiking; Libertarian's dont mistrail too often.

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    2. Ohio lawmaker resigns after ‘inappropriate behavior’ with another man in state office
      A married Ohio representative who believes in a “natural marriage” between a man and woman stepped down after House leaders confronted him about “inappropriate behavior” with another male in his state office.

      Rep. Wes Goodman resigned Tuesday after Speaker Cliff Rosenberger learned of the allegations against the Cardington Republican, who later confirmed them to be true, the Columbus Dispatch reported.

      The 33-year-old was elected to his seat in 2016 following work for the Conservative Action Project, a network which connects organizations and people with values consistent with the conservative movement, Cleveland.com reported.

      Goodman has relied on such conservative values to bolster his political message.

      “Healthy, vibrant, thriving, values-driven families are the source of Ohio’s proud history and the key to Ohio’s future greatness,” according to Goodman’s campaign website. “The ideals of a loving father and mother, a committed natural marriage, and a caring community are well worth pursuing and protecting.”

      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lawmaker-resigns-inappropriate-behavior-man-article-1.3637784

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  13. Democrat Franken apologizes for forcibly kissing a woman and calls for an ethics investigation of himself.

    Republican Trump admits he grabbed women by the pu**y and calls reports of his admission lies and fake news.

    Republican Moore states he "generally" did not date teenage girls and always had his dates' "mothers' permission" but calls reports of numerous witnesses to his behavior lies and fake news.

    Looks like soft spoken Dems man up while tough talking Repubs cry like babies.

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  14. 12:59amm it's a six plant thing; but he'll claim he doesn't inhale.

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    1. Does anyone understand the Sierra Madre pot ordinance? Can you have 6 pot plants growing indoors at any one time? Or is it over a set period of time? Like maybe a year? Not clear on that.

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    2. City statute states 6 per household but it is not enforceable.
      http://www.cityofsierramadre.com/common/pages/DisplayFile.aspx?itemId=8771758

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    3. Judging by the Kefalas situation a lot of city statutes are not enforceable.

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  15. 1:00pm. Step son of the crying Moore accuser that the ambulance chaser Gloria is defending; says that his step mom is lying.
    Google interview for yourself...it's like a puzzle, put the pieces together.

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    1. Too bad Moore is too big a sissy to man up about this. Now he's attacking the same women he assaulted. That makes him a double creep.

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    2. So for no apparent reason this "stepson" does not believe his "stepmother"
      "“I’ve known the woman, she married my father many, many years ago. I’ve known her for a while now, and I truly do not believe that she’s being honest about this,” he said. BFD He's nobody nothing......

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    3. Actually he's a racist criminal.as per Breitbart. He says that a stepmother would normally tell her grown stepson about a molestation? Sure buddy.....

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  16. Nasty man:

    Another woman has come forward accusing former President George H.W. Bush of sexual assault ― this time while he was in office.

    A 55-year-old woman, who asked to remain unnamed, told CNN that at a re-election campaign fundraiser in Dearborn, Michigan, in April 1992, the then-67-year-old Bush grabbed her rear during a photo op.

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  17. Are we speaking about lousy representatives from both sides? Will California be taxed higher federally now because we are a high tax state? Maybe both sides of our legislature needs to slow down.

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    1. Both the Democrats and Republicans raise taxes on the middle class. The difference is who they give the confiscated funds.

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  18. Here Here to Mod kicking ass today and unloading on some jerk!! Keep it up Mod.

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  19. Whoops, meant Hear Hear !!

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