Sunday, April 8, 2018

Sierra Madre & Arcadia Report: There Is Nothing Like An Election To Show You Just How Clueless Some People Are

Sierra MadrePeople involved in this election have been sending in their notes from the campaign trail, and at times these dispatches from the front would be funny if they just weren't so sad. Here is one I received yesterday.

Talked to two older men that had already voted for Andy. They voted for him because HE WANTED TO KEEP THE LIBRARY WHERE IT IS. If he wins, it might be because of that single issue. Also heard from a number of people that they were in favor of Measure D.

Can you believe that there are people living in Sierra Madre who are quite that clueless? Well, OK, maybe that isn't so hard a thing to believe. But even in the grand scheme of all things possible in life that kind of uniformed vote is world class obtuse.

As people qualified to describe themselves as sentient can tell you, one of the City Hall people most responsible for the entire "Move the Library" process going forward in the first place was Andy Bencosme.

As Chair of the Community Services Commission, Bencosme dragooned the members of that august body of key decision makers into voting unanimously to push that misguided Library idea onto the public.

Without Bencosme's support the City Council would never have approved spending $18,000 for that Library Survey Postcard now the object of such derision in town. The sheer cynicism and dishonesty it took for Andy to send out a postcard now proclaiming that he is against moving the Library is mind-bending.

But look, it convinced the two fools our correspondent discussed above. If either if them are reading this, you really do need to look ashamed. No fish was ever so completely hooked. The capacity of some people to vote against their own interests is endless.

Bencosme is playing both sides of the street

Here is another Bencosme postcard rating a "10" on the cynicism and dishonesty scale.


Now there are some who might actually believe that those who are supporting Measure D would think that Andy is a pretty awful guy for taking a stand against getting rid of Sierra Madre's utility taxes entirely, right? And if you do, well, Arcadia Andy has fooled you once again.

Amongst the Tea Party element in town Andy is actually their favorite in this election. Not because of his opposition to Measure D, of course. Something even they realize won't win. No, they like Slick Andy because of his so-called "Property Rights" stand.

You see, the same people who are opposed to there being any utility taxes in town are also not all that crazy about building and development standards, either. In their fevered minds mansionization and other such acts of crapping all over your neighbors is some form of sacred human right. 

They neither want to fund or preserve Sierra Madre. And of the four candidates running, Andy is actually their favorite, and will get much of the pro-Measure D vote.

Our boy Andy is playing to both sides. He stands for nothing but getting elected.

Arcadia: Just to show you that Sierra Madre does not have a monopoly on political mailers aimed at the sucker vote, here is another postcard that goes to the very top levels of the overly credulous scale.


Sho Tay, who is not famed in Arcadia for being the sharpest tack in the nail keg, has been on the City Council all during the recent crime wave there. As has Roger Chandler. And Bulldozer Bob Harbicht had, up until fairly recently, been on the City Council for decades. Yet now all you need to do is return these three losers to office as one and all that crime stuff is suddenly going to stop?

If you believe that elected politicians are accountable for what happens on their watch, then these windbags are the guys actually responsible for the crime wave in Arcadia. Putting them back on the City Council to fight crime is like appointing Johnny Walker, Jack Daniels and Jim Beam to the President's Council on Fighting Alcoholism

Sho Tay, or at least his handlers, must think you are as clueless as he is. Actually, judging by this latest postcard, they actually do.

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122 comments:

  1. Can you believe it both Andy and Trump are doing well. Guess people are getting the right picture for things getting better.

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    1. 7:17, your nurses must be busy and haven’t got your meds to you yet, just hold tight, fixate on the light over your bed.

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    2. Andy and Trump. Yes. Very much so. Neither one of them is mentally equipped to tell the truth.

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    3. With the support of all the real estate agents in Sierra Madre and other cities who want more development, Andy is trying to buy a city council seat. With 4 city-wide mailers he just may fool the voters and succeed.

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  2. Clueless? As painful as it may be, take a look in the mirror!
    Residents involved in Sierra Madre and preservation understand that the Planning Commision does a pretty darn good job.
    These same residents understand that it was the Friends of the Library, including Stockly, Doyle, the usual group of knuckleheads, that have pushed and finaniced the questioner mailer about relocation, the timid City Council voted on.
    The pro vote on Measure D from many of the same residents could be that our tax money is collected from City Hall, put into the General Fund, and can be used for what ever fancies the council; there is no safeguard in place as to how this money is spent.
    Becoming a bottomless pit of scare tactics; closing down the town, with this same council refusing to put on the breaks of over spending.
    The retirement; departure, of the last City Manager and the replacement with a qualified new City Manager has been one of the few responcible decisions to come out of this council.
    Clueless? "I don't know, like stuff"
    You are correct. It is the "stuff" that residents are voting on with their own hands in their deep pockets.

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  3. Fortunately time moves on, and only two more days of Chandler on council and the threat of Harbicht returning. Tay sure will be lonely.

    How’s he going to know how to vote without Roger telling him?

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    1. Here in Sierra Madre we are also waiting for 2 more days, to find out just how much dirty campaigning pays off. If Bencosme wins, it'll be because of a lie.

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  4. This Sierra Madre election is so important for the reasons stated in today's blog. Just look at all the money Andy has spent in sending out his post cards. We must keep the Arcadia Board of realtors representative off the Council. Please tell your neighbors to vote for the incumbents. Denise Delmar has no big time sponsor, why word of mouth is so importsnt.

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  5. Have you ever thought about creating an e-book or guest authoring on other blogs?

    I have a blog based upon on the same subjects you discuss
    and would really like to have you share some stories/information. I know my audience would appreciate your
    work. If you are even remotely interested, feel free to shoot
    me an email.

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  6. We haven't seen the likes of Andy since Joe Mosca suddenly left town.

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    1. Funny how the people who love Sierra Madre the most just got here.

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    2. Sell the library! Sell the library! Wait no, keep the library! Keep the library!

      Citizen vote on the DSP! Citizen vote on the DSP! Citizen vote? We don't need no stinking citizens vote.

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    3. Andy was for moving the library before he was against it. Who knows what he'll say if he gets elected. Your guess is as good as mine.

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    4. 8:09, what a good memory you have. Thank you. That is exactly what that liar did.
      I sure hope Sierra Madreans do not elect another liar.

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    5. I looked at all his mailers again and still no mention that he is a real estate agent. All his donors are agents too.

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  7. Good post, 7:44 - Joe Mosca has come back in the form of Andy.

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    1. Joe was prettier.

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    2. You just made Joe's year. Maybe decade.

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  8. The Asian man walking down my street going up to homes that were on his printed “haven’t voted yet” list wanted nothing to do with me in discussing Chandler.
    I asked him if he even knew who Chandler was? No answer!! He smiled in the typical embarrassed “I’m don’t know anything I’m just doing as Tay says” and proceeded to sheepishly walk away.

    What a joke these uninformed Tay followers are. They’re being used. How about learn what’s going on in the city you call home?

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    1. How do they know who hasn't voted yet? Where did they get that information?

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    2. What happened to the individuals freedom of choice that we are so proud and willing to defend and die for it in western democracy?

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    3. The health of a democracy is dependent upon an informed electorate. Freedom of choice without wisdom is just childish acting out.

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    4. Don't you think that the commotions that we're all having now is very subjective? Aren't we the self-appointed connoisseurs of what is good taste in building architecture, wine, cars, fashion, art, music, books, political branding, etc. and convince others to accept our opinions of good taste.

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    5. If this is meant to be some sort of an justification for why Andy Bencosme flip flopped on his support for the moving the library, I'm not buying it.

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    6. 9:21,

      That's debatable. You are assuming that the other opposing team is not informed because they do not agree with your team.

      Our so called USA democracy offers our country an illusion of choice when we have 2 political parties monopolizing the government over 100+ years. The politicians work for the 3% of the wealthiest US population and convince the rest of the 97% that we have a health democratic political system.

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    7. So the difference between right and wrong are just minor subjective details for you? Seems sophmoric.

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    8. So everything you do is objective. Are you saying that?

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    9. Not true. Some things seem like a pointless waste of time. Like this conversation I am having with you. Can I go now?

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    10. 9:47

      Big difference:

      Murder is wrong. Stealing money from your company is wrong. Helping your friend in time of crisis is right. Taking responsibility for your children's welfare is right.

      Deciding which wine to drink is subjective. Deciding to buy a mini cooper or Ford Yukon is a personal choice and subjective.

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    11. 9:49 You have the freedom of choice to do whatever you want. I will respect that.

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    12. 8:45, the candidates get daily reports of mail in ballots received, so they know who hasn’t voted and can go harass them. If anything in life ol Shogun has mastered, its that. His parents must be proud.

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  9. Voters of District 5, it’s simple, ask Tay what he proposed that Verlato, Beck and Amundson wouldn’t vote for. You’ll find out the answer is NOTHING! That’s the same answer to the question of what Chandler will do for you, unless you are a developer.

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  10. I can’t believe all the hateful replies to my post yesterday. How can you hate Peacocks?

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    1. You know we are living troubled days when people say mean things about peacocks.

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    2. Meant no disrespect, but peacocks look pretty ugly comparing to other birds: parrots, ducks, chicken, sparrows. Again that is subjective.

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    3. The Arboretum needs to get some emus.

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    4. Careful talking about Peacocks there’s a possibility that word might get around that if a Peacock is eaten it’ll cure everything from incompetence to impotence.

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  11. The Mountain Views News endorsed the incumbents and not Andy. Wow.

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    1. I did not know. When did this happen?

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    2. Henderson's endorsement is worth far less than the paper it's printed on.
      All that means is that she thinks they are going to win.

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    3. People do read it. Especially older residents who don't use the internet much.

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  12. As far as I know Andy Bencosme is currently or has been the branch manager for a long time of the "Sierra Madre Century 21” Real estate office, in downtown Sierra Madre, but has been hiding that fact from the public! He just lets the public know he is a longtime Sierra Madre businessman but does not disclose what type of business he is actually in “FULL TIME REAL ESTATE SALES and possibly C-21 management" is his business! Very shady and sneaky… if you ask me...
    Possibly the actual owner of the C-21 office he is involved with put him up to running in this election, and we all know what that would be for.

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    1. You really are the lowest common denominator. It’s just a free for all neurosis parade at this point. Please seek help.

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    2. A campaign strategy? Let's disguise my business? That makes me more nervous than the fact that he is a realtor.

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    3. Actually 9:03 makes a very good point. Something that obviously offended you judging by all the school yard name calling. Bencosme has attempted to keep his real estate associations out of the picture because it would make his false claims of being a community preservationist ring hollow. That he was twice president of the Arcadia Assoc of Realtors, the largest and best financed force for mansionization in the area, does not improve that picture.

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    4. The fees charged by real estate agents to walk buyers through houses and fill out some forms make most attorneys blush.

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    5. There must be a reason that he is deliberately concealing that he is a real estate agent. He had four opportunities to do so in each of his mailings and failed to do it each time. Saying he is a downtown business man is s joke. It reeks with a guilty state of mind. He knows his agenda. He just doesn't want any one else to know.

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    6. He's a former FBI informant and relocated to Sierra Madre under the witness protection program.

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  13. This small local election seems to mirror how the 'trump' campaign was funded and ran?

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    1. Makes sense. Bencosme is a Republican. Just like Chandler and Harbicht.

      http://www.bencosme.com/resume.html

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    2. Bringing national politics into local elections creates more confusion and division.
      Here in Sierra Madre, we have managed civic action that includes all kinds of opposing political viewpoints, and it has helped to preserve the community.

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    3. Yes, the challenges are greater now.

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    4. Calling BS on the notion that party affiliation has no place in a local election.

      Anyone who is a Republican today supports the misanthropic policies of its national leader, pr*sident Dennison, unless they have a strong record of condemning the colluder-in-chief. Those who don't condemn Putin's Puppet have no place in government anywhere.

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  14. "Property rights" is what Amundsen the Tea Partier in Arcadia would always spout when people complained about Mansionization.

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    1. And Bencosme learned that lesson well.

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    2. You know, off you're just going to make stuff up, make it believable. Why don't you talk about something you know more about? Like the unicorn your aunt keeps in her attic?

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    3. Me think Amundsen need glasses, really struggles reading.

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    4. Amundsen's campaign slogan when he first ran was "No eminent domain for private gain"...that's how he packaged "property rights". The Chinese then realized that the Arcadia City Council majority were right wing "property rights" radicals who wouldn't stop the Chinese from overdeveloping properties and swooped in like locusts.

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    5. Bencosme is a reactionary.

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    6. Amundsen also had mailers during 2016 election saying he would stop the spread of massage parlors and he’s never done one damn thing about them since getting elected. We don’t forget people!

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  15. 9:57,
    The truth is that this anti-mansionization group is made up of 1% of the Arcadians that wants to dictate their vision of what is good for the rest of the 99%. This is dictatorship government.

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    1. Look around you, 10:14. I'm assuming you live in Arcadia? Every time I go through that town, I think that it's too late to stop its destruction. There are enough vanity castles and single family hotels to choke any neighborhood. Whole blocks in some places look like wall to wall mcmansions with no set backs, no space, no light, no privacy; a bizarre combination of New York tenement living and Hong Gong overpopulation crammed together. Even worse is when it's a monument to conspicuous consumption in between modestly sized houses. Arcadia was not protecting itself, and the results are clear.
      Sierra Madre owes you a debt of gratitude. Arcadia let so many gross violations take place, such a complete loss of property rights for neighboring land owners, that it became a warning to other cities.
      We'll see on Tuesday just how those percentages shake out.

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    2. I have and continue to look around me from a person that lives in SGV 45+ years.

      The fact remains that we have a 1% of people in Arcadia that wants to dictate their vision for the majority.

      Why should the City let five City Council members to decide their vision of what is good for Arcadians? You are putting a lot of faith in the hands of "politicians" that they will do the right thing for the people. History repeatedly tells us otherwise.

      And choosing the Hong King, one of the most populated cities, as example to equate that to the cities of SGV is ridiculous. The history of People flooding to HK is due to political freedom from communism and the majority of the poor have no choice to get out of there. Do you really think they want to live in one of the most overcrowded city on earth if they have a choice?

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    3. 10:14, you’re dead wrong.

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    4. 11:06,
      You talk about Hong Kong like you have been there. Do you know that about 40% of the HK land area is reserved as country parks and nature reserves? Over 90% of the population uses the well-developed and efficient public transportation. Yes, HK is an overpopulated city but not by choice. When you are refereeing to urban blight and overcrowded area, you're refereeing to the illegal rooftop slums, public housing, etc where the majority lives. There are the superrich and middle class Hongkongers that live in area of HK very much like the affluent area in Manhattan NY.

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    5. 10:14: 1%? Really? Then how come Verlato kicked Harbicht's ass?

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    6. 11:49:
      Okay, let's settle it with an official city wide survey of what Arcadians want.

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    7. 12:21,
      Lots of reason: his old, looks dishonest, bad hair, bad manners, just turns people off, bad campaign decisions. Verlato won doesn't represent the majority of Arcadians.

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    8. The OP said 1%, 12:31. Big difference between that and "not a majority."

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    9. 12:22,
      I love to use 1% to get peoples attention. Just like you love to get attention with catchy marketing phrases "vanity castles" and "McMansions".

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    10. 11:35, maybe you think it’s 1% cause you don’t get out much. Myself and many of my neighbors HATE the onslaught of mansions and are actively fighting them.

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    11. 12:39 - by using that figure 1% you seem out of touch and intellectually lazy.

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    12. 12:40pm
      I have spoken to a Asians and Caucasian neighbors, and many of them felt the same way as I do. I have been living 15+ years in a modest small home in Arcadia. For me, I have no need of a large house since I don't have children and parents living with us.

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    13. 12:56,
      You want to pontificate to others when you are living in a bubble. Let's settle it with an official city wide survey of what Arcadians want if you are looking for intellectual honesty.

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    14. Ok. Just as long as you pay for it.

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    15. 1:10 Your survey is called an election. Verlato won on the platform of reasonable development standards. Residents voted for her because they wanted to see some restriction on residential development.

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  16. Amtrak ends specialty Train Trips.
    The sky car that travels up and down the coast will be no more.
    What's up with the rail lines? No more stack and pack builds, so that translates into no more contracts with private luxury train travel?

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    1. Your thoughts are too deep for the rest of us.

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    2. I rode Amtrak this week.

      What are you saying?

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    3. I grew up on the east coast, and all the Amtrak trains had bar cars. How come the trains here do not?

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    4. 12:22, rode surf liner last week and it had a bar car.

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    5. All aboard!

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  17. Check out the non-sporting group of the Beverly Hills Dog Show; channel 4.

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  18. Amtrak was burdened by Trump with a failed airline CEO,hopefully this will be changed in the near future.....

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  19. Best in group: #1-the Blood Hound. Shout out to the Sierra Madre Search and Rescue.

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  20. In response to 9:09 ("Andy was for moving the library before he was against it. Who knows what he'll say if he gets elected. Your guess is as good as mine."), I ask, which way involves building condos that his realtor backers can sell?

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    1. Andy's grand library flip-flop certainly demonstrates his lack of leadership. But it also has already had real world consequences. The City and Friends of the Library have wasted more than a hundred thousand dollars on plans, studies and surveys that could have been employed to actually help fix the library.

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    2. I'd bet money he flips back to his original position if he is elected. Andy only did it to get votes. After that it is all about moving that piece of property.

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  21. 10:47am. The correct title; property pimps.

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  22. 10:33am. Thanks, thought it was Governor Jerry Brown's ode to his Bullet Train to nowhere.
    The California Governor throws our tax payers money at his fast rails which no one wants to ride, in place of private sector paid Coastal SkyTrain; always booked to capacity.

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    1. All sorts of incoherence about trains today. What is the "Coastal SkyTrain"? I googled it and found nothing. Perhaps you could post a link or otherwise explain.

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  23. Many people don’t take voting seriously anymore. It takes maybe an hour to read the pros and cons of what the election is about. Most people don’t bother. They make their decisions based on what they heard. Voting is about getting both sides and then YOU make the decisions. It should never be about party. They say there will be a low turn out in Sierra Madre. If that happens, it is sad. Don’t say your vote doesn’t matter because it does. Regardless of how you vote, it is a right.

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    1. Let's be honest. A lot of people are lazy. Slick dudes like Bencosme and Mosca play to the vanity of people who are too lazy to learn the facts.

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    2. Don Watts was very insightful when he said, "People think the government is 'them.' It's not. It is us. It is you."

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  24. Well, well, well. Andy's flyer has a fictitous ballot showing only his name on it. That is a tip off that he is running his campaign as a Power Voting. Someone did post they learned that Andy yard signs were placed with the request that that was the only one on the lawn. I think you see that more often than not.

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  25. I know no one looks forward to another Grammar Lady screed, but why are semicolons so hard? Here's some friendly advice: just don't use them. You don't know how. That is all. Thank you.

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  26. Delmar and her collection of aging local kooks have blown it. We are going to be hearing why Mater Dolorosa can be "responsibly" developed in a way that raises property values for the surrounding neighborhood led by Bencosme and a facilitating and weak Gene Goss who won't be answerable to the voters anymore because he will be in his 2nd term and doesn't plan on running again. Then in 2020 the developers will try and win one more seat so they have a 3 person majority and that will be that. Poof. Bedford Falls becomes Pottersville. Bullet vote for Delmar and Arizmendi to defeat Jose and throw a scare into Goss that he could be recalled if he goes sideways.

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    1. Goss is already sideways.

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    2. and get preservation candidates like some existing planning commission members or Mike Amerio or Ed Garcia ready to run in 2020 because that's going to be the main show because Capoccia is leaving and Harabedian may or may not leave. If Bencosme wins then the enemy will be emboldened.

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    3. Yep. Sometimes Goss is like seaweed -- he goes with the flow. Helpful if the rest of the Council is doing the right thing, but no bulwark against those who seek to do the town harm.

      My big fear if Bencosme replaces Delmar is not the danger of the 2020 election, but that Harabedian and Goss will flip and vote along with Andy.

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    4. I have never voted for Goss. Never liked or trusted him. Ponderous, obvious and slow. And far to eager to please.

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    5. It's very possible Goss and Harabedian will flip and become more amenable to mansionization and development. For instance, Harabedian and Goss were very sympathetic to Felikian when he was crying and whining about building restrictions on his mansion (which was covered by the Tattler).

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    6. Maybe you’re right to worry about Goss flipping, but I have been pleasantly surprised by his performance on the council. Hopefully Delmar wins and Goss won’t be put to the test.

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    7. If they can get Harabedian and Goss to flip and join Jose then the Mater Dolorosa developer will have two years to get entitlements before 2020 gets here.

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    8. 2:07, they don't really need all the entitlements done, just a change in general plan designation and zoning. Then they can submit followup applications that the city will be legally required to approve so long as they meet code.

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    9. 2:07. No entitlements for sub dividing lots until water restrictions are lifted. Know the facts before you post.

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    10. 4:30: that’s not so important. A tract map is also a quasi-judicial action that the city can be sued over. The big issue is the discretionary approvals.

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  27. By "aging local kooks" you mean the people who have fought to preserve Sierra Madre?

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    1. Another day, another slur.

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    2. Kook here. Wonder at the choice of label. What is kooky about pointing out to the voting public that three incumbent candidates for City Council are in fact the best choice and that it would be a Very Bad idea to put a realtor on the City Council, especially one who has been the the President of the Arcadia Realtors Association who tried their mightiest to destroy our downtown with the defeat of Measure V. Measure V is unfamaliar to many recent residents but it kept the downtown from becoming a three story sunless cement canyon along Baldwin and Sierra Madre Blvd.

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    3. What could be kookier than holding the kickoff party for a Sierra Madre City Council run at a real estate office in Arcadia?

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  28. that Jose mailer with the fake ballot is also designed to trick people into thinking they have only one vote instead of three and that they should cast that one vote for Jose

    it's an attempt to create "bullet voting" like when he asks people not to put up Delmar signs

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  29. 143pm Ed Garcia, chapter President of the Tea Party.

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  30. It might not be an ethics violation but it is unethical. The ethical thing would be to show that the voters have three choices and "I would be proud to be one of your choices." Anything short of that is an attempt at disinfranchisement.

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  31. Who is the kook 3:31pm.
    The Monastery met all legal land zoning standards, but THIS council made changes to the General Plan.

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    1. You claim that the “Monastery met all legal land zoning standards”. To what? To being a monastery? They are still, and no one (including the City) is disturbing that. To residential development? They made no application to do so, so I can’t imagine what you are talking about.

      As for the update of the General Plan, yes this City Council did, and it was a very good one at that. It was also their legal right and obligation to do do. So what is your point?

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    2. Crazy remark, 7:52. The monastery has always been zoned institutional. No council has changed that, the General Plan did not change that.

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  32. Ed Garcia has an Andy sign. Shame on you, Ed! I would have worked for you in 2020, but not now; from another "aging kook, trying to Preserve Sierra Madre."

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  33. The library is a Waste of Sierra Madre Citizen Taxpayer Dollars, All that money $$ Would be way better spent on Critical Infrastructure like The Roads And Water Pipes that are 80+ Plus Years Old.

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  34. Responding to Anonymous April 8, 2018 at 12:35 PM
    Using the word all real estate agents want development in Sierra Madre is completely unfounded I've been working 19 years,a top selling Sierra Madre realtorseveral of us pushed heavily for the hillside protections and for measure V. several of us worked to protect the city to tighten up the zoning codes we spoke up at multipal council meetings to request the Council vote to secure Sierra Madre from over development of all kinds. Yes many agents want the money but I assure you there are many who actually live here and we do not want to see Sierra Madre damaged due to over development interests and we do not want to see Andy have a seat on the council.

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    1. Thank you for posting, 4:56. I recognize that there are people with integrity in the realtor and developer businesses.
      I would disagree that it's been "several" who were supporting sane development here. It was a few, heartily appreciated members of those professions.

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