Sunday, April 22, 2018

Tim Donnelly's One Weekend 'Cinco de Mayo' Border War With Mexico Will Be Held May 5 - 6

Mod: We like to catch up with former Assemblyman Tim Donnelly occasionally, mostly because he is quite a colorful character. Tim, who you will recall once upon a time represented Sierra Madre and other area communities in Sacramento for a couple of years, is apparently going to war with both Mexico and California in just two weeks. Very ambitious of him for sure. The following came to my attention via an email blast from the news site Politico

THE BUZZ: If there's any doubt about how Donald Trump's tweetstorm slamming California and Gov. Jerry Brown on border and immigration issues is playing with his base, look no farther than the email from Tea Party darling and former state Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, which hit inboxes around California Thursday, headlined "CALLING ALL MINUTEMEN."

THE MESSAGE: "Dear Patriots, If you believe that our borders should be secure, laws enforced and immigration a controlled, orderly process, then Gov. Jerry "MoonBeam" Brown thinks you're a 'low-life' that should 'chill' out and just accept that millions of illegal aliens are here....THE TIME FOR TALK IS OVER..."

DONNELLY, who's mounting a CA-08 primary challenge from the right to GOP Rep. Paul Cook, challenges conservative and "patriot" voters to "send a message to "MoonBeam" that you refuse to allow him to turn our communities into cesspools and sanctuaries for illegal alien criminals." Their plan: to amass at a designated border location about 70 miles from San Diego on the weekend of May 5-6. He says the response has been "overwhelming."

Mod: This sent me scrambling to Google News to find articles I could cite here, but ironically the only one in existence was from the Spanish language newspaper La Opinion. I ran it through Google Translator for the benefit of The Tattler's Anglophone readership, and this is what emerged. It is certainly not flattering to Mr. Donnelly.

Candidate to the Congress of the United States summons to "Patriots and Minutemen" to watch the border (La Opinion link): Tim Donnelly, an ultra-conservative congressional candidate in San Bernardino, California on Tuesday, called on anti-immigrant militias to make a symbolic effort on the border on May 5. Donnelly, a former tea party candidate and self-appointed "Minuteman leader," apparently wants to revive the movement that exactly 13 years ago captured the country's attention by sending thousands of volunteers to "patrol" the border to stop undocumented immigration .

In a statement from his campaign, Donnelly called for the revival of controversial militias, after California Governor Jerry Brown decided not to send the National Guard to the border while its mission is related to immigration.

"Since the illegal Governor Brown has decided to side with the criminals and ignore President Trump's call to send troops to the border - by threatening our communities," the people must resist this tyranny, " Donnelly said.

The Republican candidate for Congress for District 8, occupied by Republican Paul Cook, called on "all Minutemen and patriotic groups to come to the aid of their country and do the work that the irresponsible Governor Brown has refused to do."



The call is for next May 5 - a day of celebration for the Battle of Puebla in Mexico that is symbolically celebrated in the United States - and supposedly aims to summon supporters of the anti-immigrant movement in the town of Boulevard, California.

But instead of summoning militias to stand for a long time on the border "to help the Border Patrol", Donnelly plans an only one weekend mobilization, to send a message to Governor Brown.

"Let the cartels and criminals who want to penetrate the border know that from 9 am on Saturday May 5 to 9 am on May 6, the border will be safe," he said in the statement.

Despite his self-definition of "Minuteman Leader," Donnelly was not among the actual leaders of the vigilante movement, which was rejected by the leadership of both parties but later won the sympathy of some politicians like Arnold Schwarzenegger, when he was a candidate for governor of California.

The intense media coverage that the movement obtained in 2005, driven by the anti-immigrant sentiment that followed the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, had its effect on national politics and ended with the temporary sending of national guard troops to the border by George W. Bush.

Tea bag optional.
Donnelly, on the other hand, has lost more elections than he has won, although he served as an Assemblyman from California between 2010 and 2014, before submitting his candidacy for governor, which he lost in 2014.

For its part, the Minuteman movement and some of its leaders at the time are given credit for the anti-immigrant movement that followed their training and even for the phenomenon that elected Donald Trump. Recently, Jim Gilcrist, former leader of a Minuteman faction, said in an interview with Vice that his movement was responsible for raising the issue of immigration to a prominent place in US politics.

In reality, the Minuteman movement ended up dissolved and divided, and at least two of its leaders were imprisoned for various reasons. For example, Chris Simcox, founder with Gilcrist of the initial movement, was imprisoned in 2013 for sexual abuse against three girls, including his own daughter.

Shawna Forde, Arizona's Minutemen leader was sentenced to death for the murder of Brisenia Flores, 9 and his father Raúl, in a trailer near the border in 2009.

There were also multiple allegations of fraud against Minuteman leaders for funds sent by citizens to "build a wall on the border" that was never built.

Mod: There's no doubt that one of these fellows wanting to have sex with his own kid is disturbing. But as long as we're also speaking of fraud, did any of these Minutemen ever claim that Mexico was going to pay for their version of the wall? 

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193 comments:

  1. I wouldn’t support any of these guys. That being said, something needs to be done. We really can’t support every family that wants to be here. Too much tax dollars spent on schooling, medical, daily living, etc. Their home countries need to be held responsible in some way.

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    1. How much? What are the percentages? Got some stats?

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    2. Hey 8:28,
      Can I stay over at your place for 6 months?

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    3. Señor 8:28,
      So mooney nice peeple in united state. Thinkque very much for kindness for raising my 3 childrann free. Vey hard find jobs in Mexico. Mexico goverman don't care poor mecicans. Thinkque Thinkque

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    4. My 6:27 friend,
      After living in Southern CA for 55 years, don't you know that Mexicans think that we are the illegal aliens in CA. Most Mexicans think CA is still part of Mexico. Sounds unreal but I actually got a lecture from my Mexican cleaning lady how the US took over Mexico by force. Eventually I have to let her go because she talks more than she works. I do care about work ethics standards whether you're legal or illegal.

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  2. Tea bags are the far right's version of pussy hats.

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    1. Except p-hats have real meaning

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    2. Yes, but can you use them to make a nice pot of tea?

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  3. Donnelly is probably just praying away that Donald Trump will say something about May 5.

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  4. I cant believe that fool was our elected representative. He was detained at the Ontario airport several years ago for trying to bring a gun onto a plane. He "forgot" he had it.

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    1. That was back when Sierra Madre was part of an Assembly district that always elected Republicans. Donnelly won a heavily divided primary with 30% of the vote, and then sailed to election. Two years later Sierra Madre was redistricted into something that included Pasadena, and Hahn Machine Holden became our Assemblyman.

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    2. Im no fan of Holden either. I love Adam Schiff, hope he runs for President, and Anthiny Portatino, who is actually trying to do something about the out of control sale of guns to the mentally ill, kids, anyone.

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    3. The US should follow the footsteps of the early French revolutionary days if it is really serious about holding politicians accountable. The French actually chopped off the heads of states when they were performing poorly.

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    4. Can we start with Jerry Brown?

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  5. That is quite a threat Donnelly levels at Brown in his flyer.

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  6. 6:27am lol, you mean, make their own countries pay for them!
    The US is a Democratic country, the rest are Socialist, nothing fair about Socialism.

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    1. The US is a republic.


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    2. Yes. And that is usually the excuse given for turning the United States over to a Russian controlled asset.

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  7. 7:33am you can thank RINO Bart Doyle for the redistricting.

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    1. There are no real republicans

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    2. There are some unreal ones, though.

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  8. Again Progressives get it wrong. It is not against immigrants, but the ILLEGAL immigrants, leave it to a journalist to show bais.

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    1. I used to play bais, but then I moved up to lead guitar.

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    2. The press doesn’t use this phrase because “illegal" is often a code word for racial and ethnic hatred.

      The term "illegal immigrant" was popularized in 1939 as a slur by the British toward Jews who were fleeing the Nazis and entering Palestine without authorization. Holocaust survivor and Nobel Peace Prize winner Elie Wiesel aptly said that "no human being is illegal."

      When you label someone an "illegal alien" or "illegal immigrant" or just plain "illegal," you are effectively saying the individual, as opposed to the actions the person has taken, is unlawful. The terms imply the very existence of an unauthorized migrant in America is criminal.

      In this countr there is still a presumption of innocence that requires a jury to convict someone of a crime. If you don't pay your taxes, are you an illegal? What if you get a speeding ticket? A murder conviction? No. You're still not an illegal. Even alleged terrorists and child molesters aren't labeled illegals. By becoming judge, jury and executioner, you dehumanize the individual and generate animosity toward them.

      The bias is yours.

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    3. So 8:38 how many illegal aliens friends you have?

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    4. There's a language barrier.

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    5. So 8:38, what you made of the ubiquitous labeling of people on the left or right from this blog's commentators?

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    6. Just people discussing their ideas, 11:20. Is that a problem for you?

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    7. 1:34,
      I guest no problem if they call you stupid, retard, #@&#@, ...

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    8. Have you been called such things here?

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  9. Tim Donnelly good for you.
    Mr. Donnelly is doing something rather than drinking beer and margaritas like most Californians do on Cinco de Mayo, a day that Mexicans don't celebrate.

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    1. Donnelly is just playing politics with the race issue in hopes of winning a primary against a Vietnam vet and retired Colonel who actually performed real military service rather than play border guard Wyatt Burp.

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    2. Tim Donnelly defends likening illegal immigration to war
      https://blog.sfgate.com/politics/2014/04/09/gop-gov-candidate-tim-donnelly-doesnt-apologize-for-being-a-minuteman-giving-a-minuteman-speech/

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    3. Rep. Paul Cook already beat Donnelly in 2016. Running against retired military in that district is not easy.

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    4. What are you talking about? The last time I was in Mexico they had a big parade for it. They celebrate more than one Independence Day.

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    5. I get stinko for cinco.

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    6. The many retired military in the 8th District must look at Wild Border Boy Tim and roll their eyes.

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    7. Mexicans really parties hard? Don't judge. I'm no racist saying that. I actually heard it from my Mexican American associate.

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  10. I think that for Cinco de mayo I'll go out for a burrito and a couple bottles of Corona instead.

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    1. I'll have Chinese sesame chicken salad and Tsingtao

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  11. 6:39 you should try it sometime, praying does work.
    The Majoriety of humans around the world believe in the power of prayers.

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    1. I pray every day Trump is arrested for treason against the Constitution of the United States.

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    2. Put down you prayer book and pick up a dictionary

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    3. Praying is for suckers

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    4. 8:45,
      Therefore, all US Presidents are suckers since all of them proclaimed to be Christians.

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    5. False 10:43. And I suspect you know that's false. Some of the first were Deists.

      And you assume all of those who were nominally christian prayed. How can you possibly know that?

      The only prayer that was ever answered is the prayer that no prayers will ever be answered.

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    6. 11:38,
      I actually have the balls to admit that I know very little of the spiritual or the real world. I did not die or know anyone die and come back.

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    7. 11:38 - You don't have or know the answer. You are just a mortal man or woman. Nothing more and nothing less.

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    8. One need not be immortal to reach my conclusion. My answer stands.

      The burden of proof is on the person making the claim that prayers work, otherwise it's made up magical thinking.

      So it's your burden--prove it.

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  12. 6:30am explain, what abuse is the #tea bag represent?

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    1. Real men brew their tea.

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    2. Study shows tea party supporters more likely to be racist:

      https://www.google.com/amp/www.msnbc.com/politicsnation/study-tea-party-supporters-more-likely-ex/amp

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    3. You are too British.

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  13. 8:02am. Don't fret, the Guitar Center is offering restringing at no charge today.

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    1. The Guitar Center is around a billion dollars in debt. Kids don't play guitar as much these days.

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    2. Don’t ‘fret’... tee hee

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    3. People are getting all keyed up over this.

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    4. We could use more off-key humor

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    5. Most of the guitar strings are made in Mexico and guitars are made in China making it affordable for kids learning guitar. Kids are so damn lucky these days.

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    6. 9:50 You mean the owners of those companies, like the true-blue, American flag-draped owners and executives of so many other American companies, shipped American jobs overseas so they could profit at the expense of those lost American jobs? The same true blue American flag-draped corporate owners who purchased politicians who, in turn, helped them ship those jobs away?

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    7. 11:44am,
      So what are you going to do about it? It's not an open secret that our 2-party political system created these things that you are talking about.

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  14. Kids don't tickle the ivory much either, bring back the mom and pop shops.

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    1. Mom and pop sold out

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  15. The fine print on that flyer encourages Minutemen to leave their guns home. Something that makes them more mall cop than militia member.

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  16. 8:30am not funny. Across this Country malls have been the prime target for shootings, TG many mall cops are armed.

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    1. Yeah, so they can shoot kids for shoplifting.

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  17. 8:38am keep it real. Someone entering any country without identification has a nefarious purpose.

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    1. ‘Nefarious’ refugees.

      Just stay under your sheets... you’ll be fine.

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  18. Why I ditched these idiots.

    Talk about strange bedfellows: the Tea Party’s love affair with Russia
    http://www.steveheimoff.com/index.php/2017/07/12/talk-about-strange-bedfellows-the-tea-partys-love-affair-with-russia/

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    1. Are we still in the Cold War?

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  19. I love how some of your liberal bloggers loved to solve world problems for everybody.

    #62 Knowing what’s best for poor people

    White people spend a lot of time of worrying about poor people. It takes up a pretty significant portion of their day.

    They feel guilty and sad that poor people shop at Wal*Mart instead of Whole Foods, that they vote Republican instead of Democratic, that they go to Community College/get a job instead of studying art at a University.

    It is a poorly guarded secret that, deep down, white people believe if given money and education that all poor people would be EXACTLY like them. In fact, the only reason that poor people make the choices they do is because they have not been given the means to make the right choices and care about the right things.

    A great way to make white people feel good is to tell them about situations where poor people changed how they were doing things because they were given the ‘whiter’ option. “Back in my old town, people used to shop at Wal*Mart and then this non-profit organization came in and set up a special farmers co-op so that we could buy more local produce, and within two weeks the Wal*Mart shut down and we elected our first Democratic representative in 40 years.” White people will first ask which non-profit and are they hiring? After that, they will be filled with euphoria and will invite you to more parties to tell this story to their friends, so that they can feel great.

    But it is ESSENTIAL that you reassert that poor people do not make decisions based on free will. That news could crush white people and their hope for the future.

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    1. Are you always this stupid, or is today your special day?

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    2. Actually I found this to be funny and accurate especially it was written by a white person.

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    3. Pawns for Fascism—Our Lower Middle Class - jstor
      https://www.jstor.org/stable/41204269
      by R NIEBUHR - ‎1937 - ‎Cited by 10 - ‎Related articles
      Pawns for Fascism - Our Lower. Middle Class. REINHOLD NIEBUHR. THE various strata of human society the smal. | men, clerks, white-collar workers and poorer who constitute the so-called lower middle class seem to the casual observer to be least capable of any fateful role in contemporary social history. Yet the are that ...

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    4. I guess if you have Basic human compassion that makes you ‘liberal’.

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    5. 9:17,
      I like that 9:11 post. It has some truth in it. Why are you labeling someone stupid just because their opinions are different from yours?

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    6. 9:41
      Not really. I think human have compassion to other humans because they are humans, and not because of identity politics. That is what is dividing humans by identity politics and any types of branding/labeling. Tribalism and groupthink are powerful human dividers. Just look at soccer team fans riots when their team lost.

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    7. Lol, I literally cut-and-pasted one of these paragraphs into a google search... and they very first link to come up was a Fox News article from a few weeks ago.

      Spoon-fed pablum.

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    8. 9:44 - It was plagiarized from a Fox News site. That makes it stupid on several levels.

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    9. Not plagiarized but programmed

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    10. 10:09,10:19,10:26:

      Actually my Google search has the following from the Wikipedia website:

      Stuff White People Like (sometimes known by the initialism SWPL) is a blog that takes a satirical aim at the interests of North American "left-leaning, city-dwelling, white people".[2] The blog was created in January 2008 by a white Canadian, Christian Lander, a Los Angeles copywriter who grew up in Toronto[3] and graduated from McGill University in Montreal. Lander co-authored the site with his Filipino Canadian friend Myles Valentin,[4][5][6][7] after Valentin teased Lander for watching the HBO television series The Wire.[8] Lander's blog became popular very quickly, registering over 300,000 daily hits and over 40 million total hits by the end of September 2008.[6]

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    11. A food co-op caused a Walmart to shut down within 2 weeks? What BS. But even if true, what's wrong with that?

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    12. Looks like 11:55 is not into satirical remarks.

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    13. Well, at least not lame satire

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  20. Nice talking points, kid. Why not start a blog with all this great material? I promise I will follow you.

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  21. 8:23am. Try reading the Constitution, you may gain knowledge.

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    1. Are there a couple of things you would like to point out?

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    2. Something tells me that 10:01 is no Constitutional scholar. His more of a Tom Cruise, who made a mockery of himself on national TV with Matt Lauer saying that he didn't believe the fields of Psychiatry or Psychology because he read a few books on the subject thus making him the expert on the subject.

      I rather leave the interpretation of the Constitution to the 9 US Supreme Court Judges.

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    3. Or some of them at least

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    4. Oh c'mon. Everybody is allowed an opinion. After all, isn't it by the people and for the people?

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  22. 9:11am. I was under the assumption that white people were waiting for permission to purchase a Starbucks coffee. Has that particular corporation completed their sensibility, opp's I ment sensitivity trainings?

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    1. You must spend a lot of time alone.

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  23. My blogger friends, the 10:09,10:19,10:26 posts' "collective experience" is called a filter bubble.

    A filter bubble is the intellectual isolation that can occur when websites make use of algorithms to selectively assume the information a user would want to see, and then give information to the user according to this assumption.

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    1. Uh oh, it's Conspiracy Sunday at Bubble Boy's house.

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    2. Collective blindness.

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    3. It is astounding to witness the conformists of this blog are so strong that anytime when someone introduces some old ideas that have existed for years, yet their immediate immune system takes over their body to defend them like foreign objects.

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    4. Pish posh. Maybe you just don't have anything interesting to say.

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    5. 1:14 is serving a lot of cheese and whine today

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  24. Mexico's and its south of the border countries biggest export to the USA is Poverty.

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    1. America's biggest export to Mexico is jobs. Wasn't Trump going to stop that?

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    2. You have to make him King to fix something this big.

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    3. He lacks the ability to think about anything but himself.

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    4. Then appoint another King to do the job.

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    5. We need to remove the current one first.

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    6. Aren't they trying to do that already?

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  25. 7:35 AM says "...nothing fair about Socialism."

    Given his beliefs about socialism, 7:35 no doubt has never used or benefited from any of the following products of socialism:

    Highways/Roads/Bridges/Tunnels
    Public Transportation/Airports/Railroads/Seaports
    Electric Grid/Communications Grid/Water/Dams
    Sewers/Waste Treatment/Public Landfills
    Military/Defense/Police/Fire Dept/FBI/CIA/HS
    DOJ/Courts/Jail/Prison System
    USPS/FDA/FTC/ EPA/VA/OSHA/FEMA/NWS/CDC/USDA/HHS
    Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid/SSDI/Unemployment Insurance
    Public Schools/Parks/Museums/Zoos/Beaches/Libraries

    If 7:35 has benefited from these socialist programs, I'm certain he will be true to his anti-socialist beliefs and promise to never, ever use or benefit from those socialist programs again.

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    1. 12:30 - Why the great country of Mexico don't take care of its citizens?

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    2. Because it’s run by corrupt capitalists

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    3. Give me a grammatically correct question that makes sense and does not contain a misdirecting and logically fallacious straw man argument about Mexico, and maybe I'll answer you.

      Try to hold it in your head that 7:35's original statement knocked socialism as unfair. I gave numerous examples of US socialism that benefits 7:35. I'd like to hear 7:35 argue that he does not benefit from any such socialism.

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    4. Here is one for the 1:49 Grammar Lady/Man blogger friend.

      #99 Grammar:

      White people love rules. It explains why so they get upset when people cut in line, why they tip so religiously and why they become lawyers. But without a doubt, the rule system that white people love the most is grammar. It is in their blood not only to use perfect grammar but also to spend significant portions of time pointing out the errors of others.

      When asking someone about their biggest annoyances in life, you might expect responses like “hunger,” “being poor,” or “getting shot.” If you ask a white person, the most common response will likely be “people who use ‘their’ when they mean ‘there.’ Maybe comma splices, I’m not sure but it’s definitely one of the two.”

      If you wish to gain the respect of a white person, it’s probably a good idea that you find an obscure and debated grammar rule such as the “Oxford Comma” and take a firm stance on what you believe is correct. This is seen as more productive and forward thinking than simply stating your anger at the improper use of “it’s.

      Another important thing to know is that when white people read magazines and books they are always looking for grammar and spelling mistakes. In fact, one of the greatest joys a white person can experience is to catch a grammar mistake in a major publication. Finding one allows a white person to believe that they are better than the writer and the publication since they would have caught the mistake. The more respected the publication, the greater the thrill. If a white person were to catch a mistake in The New Yorker, it would be a sufficient reason for a large party.

      Though they reserve the harshest judgment for professional, do not assume that white people will cast a blind eye to your grammar mistakes in email and official documents. They will judge you and make a general assessment about your intelligence after the first infraction. Fortunately, this situation can be improved if you ask a white person to proof read your work before you send it out. “Hey Jill, I’m sorry to do this, but I have a business degree and I’m a terrible writer. Can you look this over for me?” This deft maneuver will allow the white person to feel as though their liberal arts degree has a purpose and allow you to do something more interesting.

      Don’t worry, it is impossible for a white person to turn down the opportunity to proofread.

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    5. You are obsessed with white people. This is a daily thing for you.

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    6. You got me. I admit it. I am obsessed with white people. I need to understand my white brothers and sisters.

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    7. Don't knock 2:30 too hard. Despite the whirling and swirling thoughts and emotions in his noggin, he's finally mastered the copy and paste function.

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    8. 2:38 It's always straw man with 2:30. He can't stay on the topic.

      It's a narcissistic need to be right about something, anything. He assumes if it's written somewhere it's right, so he can just grab it, make it his own, and make himself "right" about something even when it's colossally wrong.

      No wonder he's the local kindred spirit of pr*sident Dennison, who can say two diametrically opposite and mutually exclusive statements in the same breath.

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    9. I think you chased the poor fellow off. Thank you.

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    10. Hey yo, what's wrong with a little of variety and a healthy competition on the blog?

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    11. 3:02, You mean like the Trump haters? The Resistance? The progressive liberal haters?

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    12. 8:54 We get it that your values align with Trump's. But most people are normal people with a sense of fairness and morality.

      So just what is wrong with "hating" narcissistic pathological liars, serial adulterers, traitors, and people who stiff their workers and contractors? And just what is wrong with "hating" a person who has all those negative traits and more? Try to imagine what it's like being moral when you try to answer those questions.

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    13. 9:29,
      8:54 also mentioned about progressive liberal haters as well as Trump haters. Where is your fairness and morality by not including that fact in your response?

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    14. 7:54am Another non-responsive response from you.

      I responded only to the portion that made any sense. You lack clarity when you say "The progressive liberal haters?" Are you referring to people like you who hate progressive liberals? Or are you claiming that progressive liberals hate without saying what you believe they hate? And how does not answering a vague, contrived question (poorly) designed to distract implicate notions of "fairness and morality?" Your thinking is extraordinarily muddled.

      Perhaps that explains why you always try to distract, such as at 7:54am, rather than responding to the issue at hand, such as the two simple questions at 9:29pm about people like pr*sident Dennison that you avoided completely.

      I ask again:

      So just what is wrong with "hating" narcissistic pathological liars, serial adulterers, traitors, and people who stiff their workers and contractors? And just what is wrong with "hating" a person who has all those negative traits and more? Try to imagine what it's like being moral when you try to answer those questions.

      And try not to distract.

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    15. 9:32,
      Don't manipulate words like the way you do to a 5 year old. Even an ESL speaker knows what 8:54 is saying that there are Trump haters as well as Liberal haters.

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    16. 9:32,
      You need to accept that some folks are not buying the Republican or Democrat two-party system.

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    17. 9:54 I'm not so sure he meant liberal haters, as you seem to be saying. I think it more likely he meant progressive liberals are the haters. It's still unclear, and your choice of one interpretation of an ambiguous phrasing over the other doesn't make it any clearer.

      Bottom line is he still left the questions unanswered. And if you are him, well then your most recent comment(s) are just more distraction.

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    18. 10:53,
      People that hates trump are called trump haters. People that hates liberal are called liberal haters. Is that crystal clear to you now? Can you move on?

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    19. It is written ambiguously, so unless you are him, or believe you reside in his mind, you don't know that is what he meant. Hint: He hates Trump haters, who generally skew progressives and liberals. Get it now? If it tires you don't read this. Oh, too late.

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    20. Are you normally like this at home? With your wife? Girl friend? Friends?

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    21. He is abbynormal.

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    22. Sorry you're upset 1:44.

      I don't bobble-headedly watch Foxnews, so when someone repeatedly tries to tell me ambiguity or opacity is clarity, I call BS on it. Feel free to avert your eyes when I do.

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    23. Hey dork, I rarely watch Foxnews. In fact I rarely watch news on TV.

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  26. 12:30,
    Assuming that you have a family, it is reasonable to expect that you want take care of your family first by devoting all your resources to the family. The majority of families are not wealthy and have abundant resources for charities, among other luxuries. 97% of US families have limited resources. The shrinking middle class subsidizes the poor as well as the superrich. There's a huge homeless population in greater LA. All we are saying is that we should take care of our citizens first. Other countries need to take care of their citizens.

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    1. If there weren't people here willing to hire them, they wouldn't come. The economy of California is dependent upon the steady influx of cheap labor.

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    2. Why would they need to come to the USA if their own country provides them the jobs or welfare benefits?

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    3. How does the middle class ‘subsidize’ the super rich?

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    4. Good question.

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    5. Actually a very poor question. The real question that those who eschew so-called illegal immigration should ask is why aren't the business owners who hire undocumented workers being prosecuted?

      If Trump and all the other xenophobic RWNJs wanted immigration across the US-Mexico border to dry up, they should spend a few million dollars prosecuting business owners rather than billions on ICE and a stupid wall.

      Of course, they don't want it to stop. They just use the issue to score points with ignorant, irrational RWNJs.

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    6. It's hypocrisy, of course. That and that kind of labor is so much cheaper. Put all the blame on the immigrants, and line the pockets of the rich who exploit them. Then send in Tim Donnelly.

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    7. 1:55,
      You tell me why the US government is not prosecuting the business owners?

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    8. I'll be happy to research it in depth for you if you can afford my hourly rate, but the short answer is that business owners want cheap labor either to work for them directly or to force all wages down. They accomplish this by owning lawmakers and law enforcers via political contributions.

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    9. My family is taken care of. We are able to help others. Same with the USA. Isn’t that why we’re always invading other countries? We want to help them, right?

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    10. 2:49 is a genius

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    11. Congratulation 4:14. You have given the most honest and meaningful answer so far. Thank you.

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    12. 1:45,
      For the past 45 years, the two major political parties sold to the Americans that tax cuts legislation benefits everyone especially the middle class. What we witnessing is a continue decline of the American middle class, the poor gets poorer, and the superrich remains where they were and even richer today. Tax cuts legislation always benefits the superrich, meaning they don't pay their fair share of taxes thus the middle class has to pick up the tab (subsidize the superrich) for the poor.

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    13. 1:55pm,
      Name another developed country that has lenient illegal immigration policies of the US?

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    14. What the RWNJs fail to understand is that the US is and always has been a nation composed of immigrants, including their ancestors. Many of those RWNJs are the direct beneficiaries of their ancestors' policies and practices of slaughter and enslavement.

      Now they bleat like kids that the "others" are taking their jobs. Sorry that so many RWNJs, too lazy to educate themselves, feel they can't compete with immigrants, but whose fault is that?

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    15. What 9:52 failed to understand is that nations, like corporations, have to adapt to changes for their own survival.

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    16. Mere pabulum to make such statements like that delinked from the immigration issue.

      We're at full employment (<5%) and the economy has been growing for 10 years. Immigration across the Mexico-US border is at a low.

      So please articulate just why the current practice of tearing apart the families of undocumented people, many of whom have US citizen children, and the building of a wall are necessary adaptations and how do those machiavellian adaptations will help our nation to survive, as you put it.

      You should be more concerned about the fool-in-chief crashing the Obama recovery with his idiotic tariffs, tax cuts for the rich, and explosion of the deficit.

      But I guess it's just easier to kick those without power who you feel are beneath you.

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    17. Okay man, we got it. You don't like trump. He's the fool-in-chief to many. And you are the fool in what?

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    18. You missed the point that the anti-immigration push has nothing to do with our nation adapting for its survival as stated by 10:10am.

      The Trump comment was just a bonus material, but was not intended to distract you like it did. So I think we know who the fool is, but it ain't me.

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  27. 12:30pm. Egads, so that's where my taxes have been spent!
    Good thing this current President is about to even the work and playing field; you receive Welfare? Good, then you can and will contribute to society through working like everyone else, for the good and fairness of all.

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    1. There are two things I can always pick up on fairly quickly. Pot smokers and Fox News watchers.

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    2. The only playing field Trump concerns himself with is his golf course. He has wasted record amounts of taxpayer money on it. Even golfed while his wife was at the ex-first-lady’s funeral.

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    3. I often wonder whether the addiction to FoxNews brainwashing provides a constant pleasurable comfort, or is it an addiction based on the constant cycling from fear to relief from fear over and over again.

      E.g. Be afraid, be very afraid: people from other countries are coming to take your stuff (adrenaline and cortisol) followed by relax: Trump will save you (endorphins and oxytocin), all in an endless cycle. I suspect it's the latter.

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    4. It’s fear driven. Many articles written about it.

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    5. 2:16,
      I assume that you have to watch lots of Fox news to reach that conclusion?

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    6. That was the best comeback you could muster?

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  28. 1:38pm. You are promoting slavery,great.

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    1. Um, no. You either misunderstood or just aren't capable of understanding.

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    2. 2:15,
      Aren't you a slave to your political party?

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    3. Nice try 1:38.


      Fake argument

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    4. Poor Trump troll is losing a multi-front war today.

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  29. I suspect you don't pay all that much in taxes. In fact, I'd wager that I pay more than you. The difference is that I don't whine like a child about it.

    As for your worship of the Putin-owned pr*sident Dennison, I agree with MAGA--Many A**holes Getting Arrested.

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    1. Please explain "pr*sident Dennison" to the late bloomers on this blog.

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    2. ‘Dennison’ is trump’s alias that trump’s attorney used for the NDA with Stormy Daniels

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    3. Thank you...I was wondering also.

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  30. The Nutjobs are in full bloom under the Great Orange Cesspool glow.

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    1. You should know...you're one of them.

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  31. 2:30pm. Wit & Witisim. Refreshing.

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    1. Only if you consider copy and paste witty.

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    2. 9:38, Somehow I don't think that was what 2:30 meant. Besides, what is wrong with that satirical piece? Obviously the white author of that piece is making fun of certain demographic group of white folks. You are taking this blogger forum way too seriously.

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    3. What is wrong is that 2:30 cuts others' writing and pastes without attribution.

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    4. Well, if you actually follow the blogs, he gave credit to the author and his website.

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    5. Not when he posted at 2:30.

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    6. Not when he posted it. How many days or weeks back are readers to scroll?

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    7. Try 2 days, Sir

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    8. You can scroll all the back to 2008. That is when this blog started.

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    9. OMG, what is going on with these grips? These are anonymous comments on a social blog.
      Chill out!

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    10. It's an honor for me to fulfill your wishes... to stop this griping.

      https://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/full-list-of-stuff-white-people-like/

      By Christian Lander

      #99 Grammar:
      Excerpt:
      White people love rules. It explains why so they get upset when people cut in line, why they tip so religiously and why they become lawyers. But without a doubt, the rule system that white people love the most is grammar. It is in their blood not only to use perfect grammar but also to spend significant portions of time pointing out the errors of others.

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    11. He's still dodging the issues at 12:30pm, 1:49pm, 9:29pm, and 9:32am. And you, twin 11:02s, are aiding the troll.

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    12. So be it. Who cares.

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    13. You've been following every post, no doubt with bated breath, so apparently you do.

      Glad I could help you get in touch with yourself.

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  32. 2 days now with no illegal Shogun Tay reports. Maybe he was arrested?

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  33. Most Foxes smoke Pot,;,celebrate 4-20 everyday.

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  34. Let's see some facts about Tim Donnelly:

    1. Tim Donnelly was arrested for Larceny before he dropped out of the University of Michigan. Donnelly initially tried to deny it happened.

    2. Tim Donnelly was arrested for taking a loaded gun through an airport checkpoint. Donnelly was given probation with no jail time.

    3. Tim Donnelly violated his terms of probation after a film of him was posted on YouTube firing a gun not owned by him. Donnelly's terms of probation specifically prohibited Donnelly from firing a gun not owned by him. IF this was any other person, Donnelly would have been put in the slammer. But because Donnelly was good buds with DA Michael Ramos, Donnelly was never penalized for his probation violation.

    4. Tim Donnelly was fined for a campaign violation.

    5. Tim Donnelly consistently blames the failure of his business on illegal immigration. But what if Donnelly is simply a terrible businessman who failed to properly manage his business?

    Tim Donnelly isn't a mere "ultra conservative;" but rather, a complete nut job. Thankfully, however, I think I can confidently say that Donnelly will never hold a higher position than his previous state assembly seat. In my opinion, we don't need Donnelly's hatred and hysterics to further infect politics.

    Donnelly's mass popularity is limited to the armpits of California: The deep Inland Empire and deserts. Home of meth labs, disgusting weather, and (unfortunately) too many uninformed people.

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    1. So you don't like him?

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    2. Regarding 12:35's fact findings: If you replace "Donnelly's" with Sho Tay, he will be the next elected CC when he runs again b/c of misinformation and mob tactics campaigning.

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    3. 12:35... A lot of “uninformed people” living in the SGV too.

      (I do not proclaim to know everything—nor do I like Tiny Tim Donnelly either. Tiny Tim is Trump Lite.)

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    4. I was just doing some "Googling" regarding Tim Donnelly and this article randomly came up. I share disdain for Tim Donnelly because I feel that he embodies everything that is wrong with the GOP. Donnelly's rhetoric, I feel, creates more harm than good. I would be afraid for Donnelly's potential constituents if he were to be elected to U.S. Congress. Even more troubling is that Rand Paul, who has proven recently to be a "Russian Stooge," has endorsed Donnelly (which really proves that birds of the same feather flock together).

      The great thing is that Donnelly, who has been relegated to nothing in recent years, will soon be deservedly shamed on Sacha Baron Cohen's "Who Is America?" television show. Apparently, Donnelly walked off the set after 20 minutes... so it should be good:

      https://slate.com/culture/2018/08/who-is-america-uses-emails-from-alexis-to-lure-guests-into-sacha-baron-cohen-interviews.html

      Here is a clip if you aren't familiar with Who Is America:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k4pMTsa1Kw

      Proof that today's GOP is ruining America.

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  35. Well, Sho Tay, like Tim Donnelly, is a Republican. Coincidence? Not that I like the Democrats either. But when faced choosing between two evils, Democrats seem to almost always come ahead. But make no mistake: Democrats have done (and do) some very disgusting things (i.e. soda size regulations, paying for plastic bags at the grocery store, covertly supporting Hillary over Bernie, more taxes, etc.).

    Nonetheless, I don't like the "liberal" vs "conservative" vs "centrist" labels. These labels merely divide and conquer... when we should all be trying to find a compromise.

    {end rant}

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    1. I like level-headed bloggers like you. Refreshing.

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