Wednesday, May 2, 2018

Investigation of Voter Fraud in Arcadia Moves Forward

Some folks are apparently in a whole world of hurt. About eight of them by my count. Voter fraud is a felony, punishable by as much as three years in prison. And the investigation into voter fraud in Arcadia's 5th District by the County of Los Angeles has now already begun.

That was the big surprise at last night's Arcadia City Council meeting. And it didn't take a vote by the City Council to make this happen. Tom Beck didn't have to break away from viewing ostriches in AfricaRoger Chandler didn't need to try and stop a process that could eventually end up costing him his City Council seat. Nor did Peter Amundson need to further extend his term as Mayor by another 6 months. Nothing like that.

Rather City Staff, in the form of the City Manager and the City Attorney, took all of that revelatory material we first shared with the world here on The Tattler, plus some other equally relevant odds and ends, and packed it all off to the folks who work for the County of Los Angeles and specialize in investigating voter fraud.

They did it all by themselves. Just like responsible city officials should.

Not bad, right? That is how things are supposed to be handled according to both City Manager Dominic Lazzaretto and City Attorney Stephen Deitsch. And do you know what? I believe they got it right. And apparently so did the Arcadia City Council, who really didn't have much to vote about, or even add.

Nor did they need to give anybody any direction as it said on the Agenda Report, because the job had already been handled.

The Los Angeles County guys who deal with vote fraud investigations were apparently quite pleased to get the material, pronounced it more than enough to get their investigations started, and have already started looking into these matters. They are professionals who do this for a living, and they are now doing their jobs.

Isn't it great when things work the way they're supposed to? I think so.

Well, OK. It isn't perfect

Nothing ever is. LA County is only investigating the eight people whose names were on those deeds we published here. Just in case you're wondering why Roger Chandler was so sanguine about last night's big surprise.

There was much more fraud in that district. The estimate has it 40 households in total were involved. So obviously there is much more work to be done.

Where you can go to report Voter Fraud

You don't have to wait for City Hall to report voter fraud, you can easily do so yourself by calling the toll free 800 number supplied below. This was on the screen last night during the discussion on this topic, and I figured I'd share it with you here.


Whatever happened to the Pasadena Star News?

In the past they would have been all over a story like this. It would have been a big deal, and after they'd published a bunch of articles they would be working everyone in California for some of those investigative journalism awards they used to win.

So the question needs to be asked. Who gelded the Pasadena Star News? 

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79 comments:

  1. Time to get rid of all mail ballot Arcadia.

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  2. Did Sierra Madre have a council meeting last night? If so, anything of interest happening in town?

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    1. It was just a quick one item meeting, and that was to confirm John Harabedian would be Sierra Madre's voting representative at the big SCAG meeting coming up in a couple of days. This was explored in depth in an April 28 article posted here on The Tattler.

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  3. Singpolii is the landlord for the Star-News

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    1. Stop reading Star-News. The Star has been fallen off the sky. Arcadia residents don't waste your money.

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    2. I can't imagine wanting to subscribe to a self-censoring so-called newspaper.

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    3. I’ll ban anything and everything Singpoli.

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  4. Voter fraud, would the number of bad votes be enough to change the outcome of the elections?

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    1. Wow. I know the DA can arrest people who voted illegally and prosecute them, but also invalidate their vote and decertify it? Very good question. I would certainly hope so.

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  5. I don't think anyone will be arrested, only notified to make a change of address.

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    1. You never know. The penalties have been established and they are part of the law. Anything can happen.

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  6. Can the city be cited by the DA for sending out mail in ballots to people who moved out of Arcadia years ago? That might have been a reason for them reporting this alleged violations. They ware trying to get ahead of an investigation they knew would happen anyway.

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    1. No. The City is not responsible. It’s all the responsibility of the county’s Registrar’s office. The Registrar’s office doesn’t want there to be voter fraud because then it would call into question everything they do.

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    2. It is much better that the County deal with this. They are way beyond stupid local politics.

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  7. One interesting tidbit. The same folks who demanded that the City of Arcadia censure the press spoke up again and now wants the city to censure speech during the Public portion of the meeting. Want proof -just listen to last night's tape of the Arcadia City Council meeting. They were also upset that contributions came into District 5 from other Arcadia districts. Why not? Their candidate will be voting on items that affect the entire city. They did not seem at all upset that most of the $$$$ for their candidate came from outside developers and realtors.

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    1. A government trial of journalists on the charge of hurting peoples' feelings would be both interesting and absurd.

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    2. There seems to be a big effort now to shut people up. Particularly journalists. Nobody is supposed to talk about the connection between big money developers and the campaigns of Harbicht, Chandler and Tay. The really weird twist is this whole snowflake "they hurt my feelings" BS heard at public comment. Sounds like something you might hear at Berkeley.

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    3. Tay received $1,000 from a real estate agent who lives in District 2 and $2,500 from a real estate agent that lives in Covina. But the enemy is Platt and Beck who received all campaign money from everyday residents of Arcadia? These speakers have a screw loose.

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    4. Very little they say makes sense. It is like an alternate universe.

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    5. Makes me even happier that I live in Sierra Madre, where the candidate with Arcadia real estate money was voted down.

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    6. Look at it this way. Denise Delmar beat Naked Noah Green by 60 votes. Noah's political problem was some naked pictures of himself found on his Facebook page.

      Denise beat Andy Bencosme by 500 votes. His political problem? Arcadia Realtor connections. Obviously you can see which is the worse drawback.

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    7. No worse curse.

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  8. 9:52am. Good point, maybe they all graduated from Berkeley. Look how that school censored Milo; what goes around, comes around, at least they got educated in the real world- worth every penny of overpriced tuation.

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    1. Milo is no better. Alt Snowflake.

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    2. Trust me, those Sho minion ladies that have attempted to communicate at the last few Arcadia CC meetings ain’t no Cal graduates. 5th grade if that.

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    3. They seem cultish.

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    4. 5:31, indeed, the repeated nonsense, ramblings, false claims, attempted aggression.....,Manson Family comes to mind.

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    5. 10:09 A Milo fan? You're so completely lost. Sad.

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  9. 10:13am. You should enroll in basic journalism, you are brainwashed into thinking your box of thoughts is universal group think. Big money is behind everything!

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  10. Did you hear Sho Tay trying to say it was no big deal to be called a "banana". Even Gene Glasco, usually a man of peace, joked "as long as you do not go banans". Very insensitive. Quite unlike him but standard behavior for Sho. It was not funny at all for the person to whom it was directed. Nobody had the decency to address the slam about being disabled.

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    1. 1:09, you have a good point that Glasco’s comments were insensitive. Maybe the lack of intelligence displayed by Tay is having a ripple effect on others? It’s certainly impacted his followers.

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    2. Contact stupidity.

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    3. An innocent attempt at a play on words.

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    4. An attempt to deflect criticism of the hatred of his supporters.

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  11. The Star News didn't print a word about the Sierra Madre election or the Arcadia election. Not even the results. So much for local news as they touted in their op-ed page a few Sundays ago. I'd quit except the Times is worse, and besides, the Star News has three crossword puzzles.

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    1. Notice that most of the editorials now come from the OC Register? The only thing local about this paper is the name of the town on the masthead.

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  12. Sierra Madre Council used to go bananas remember when the police officer escorted a resident away from public input, Mosca or Buchanan had censoring him by turning off the mike.

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    1. See? Those were the days. You never had to worry about people showing up to meetings.

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  13. Mod, Great to hear the good news in Arcadia. Thank goodness we have the Tattler reporting what's going on at CC meetings. Arcadia Weekly has nothing about last night's meeting so far. I'm afraid it's because of Tay supporters' complaints.

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  14. Great to see the Arcadia City Staff are doing their jobs about the voter fraud due to the reports on the Tattler. I think the Tattler should be honored for its hard work on promoting government transparency and for being a voice of residents in our cities.

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  15. The Tattler should be given the investigative journalism awards this year.

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  16. 3:41, agree! We just need that over the top piece of work to end the Tay nightmare. Gotta keep diggin, with his lack of integrity there’s got to be a smoking gun out there that will bring him down in addition to his admission of illegally using campaign funds.

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  17. In 2008, Beverly Hills volunteers "canvassed the city, going door-to-door to investigate the claims of voter fraud. They uncovered 569 documented cases of voters who were not entitled to vote ...":
    http://www.capoliticalreview.com/top-stories/voter-fraud-if-it-can-happen-in-beverly-hills/

    Shouldn't we do the same in District 5, given the fact that LA County is only investigating the eight people whose names were reported by the Tattler?

    Certainly hope Chandler does not win. He has done more than enough damage to the city. Had it been made well known before the election that he voted as a Mayor to demolish the Anoakia in Dec. 21, 1999, he would have lost in a landslide already.

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    1. Really? I got a spreadsheet for free that lists everyone that voted in district 5. Plus their addresses.

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  18. You can buy the voter registeration lists for Arcadia when they are updated with this elections voting record. You could then verify the fact that a person cast a ballot in this past election. Find out what the group in Beverly Hills did in 2008. Follow their lead.

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    1. Costs $2,500 these here days.

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    2. Did City Clerk Lisa M. quote $2500 for District 5 voter registration list? If we wait until the old voting records are cleaned up, it
      will be too late to move the District 5 election towards Platt. What's wrong with using current records?

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    3. 4:56 PM, great idea. Someone should ask John Mirisch, the person who wrote the article above at 4:06 PM. Here's John Mirisch's contact info:
      http://reelectmirisch.com/contact-me/

      John Mirisch should know what the group in Beverly Hills did in 2008.

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    4. 1:09pm: Nobody had the decency to address the slam about being disabled.

      educate me please what is the slam about being disabled?

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  19. Why was Chandler making such a big deal out of the fact that the City has no authority to investigate voter fraud and that people need to file a complaint with the District Attorney?

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    1. 30 years of shoveling out disinformation has made Roger capable of saying just about anything. How else is he to work effectively against the interests of the people who elect him?

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    2. Cause he’s an old cantankerous fool. Can’t wait for him to be replaced by Platt.

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    3. Chandler is doing a good job of representing the people who have paid for his campaign. The real estate agents, developers and other special interests who don't live in Arcadia.

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    4. Chandler knows DA won't do anything about the voter fraud. Here's what John Mirisch (Mayor of Beverly Hills in 2016-2017) wrote:

      "After having refused to prosecute the widespread 2008 voter fraud, the DA’s office refused to even send a representative to our council meeting, even after I followed up the initial refusal with a letter to county DA Jackie Lacey, personally asking her to send a representative to discuss this serious issue. "

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    5. World's oldest hooker.

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    6. Don't forget that Chandler's campaign manager was Tommy Thai, the real estate agent who works for Tom Crosby, the real estate broker who is suing the city. That lawsuit was the one discussed in closed session after the meeting last night. I wonder what Chandler owes him?

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  20. How does Tay get away with saying he is "honored" to be called a banana? How does his group keep coming after hearing that comment? How are they not horrified?

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  21. Don’t worry anti mansion folks, there’s a storm brewing to further limit the home sizes. We got the votes and Chandler and Tay can’t stop the tide. Stay tuned.

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    1. We have to get Chandler out of the CC seat first by fighting voter fraud. Can't stand him being on the CC seat for another 4 years.

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    2. He lost the election. That he was sworn in when it was fraud that has put him there a week ago Tuesday is disgusting.

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    3. I’m not sure if there’s enough illegal votes to send Chandler to taco lita instead of the CC chamber.

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    4. Arcadia should also have a "mansion tax" like so many other cities:
      https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/04/20/time-tax-swanktuaries/xHZFEptQqaUc7YjdAHIImN/story.html?event=event25
      ("Time to tax the ‘swanktuaries’ ")

      "In exchange, Boston should ask for more than just property tax payments.

      In 2016, San Francisco voters approved a high-end real estate transfer tax on residential and commercial properties sold for over $5 million.

      In New York City, Mayor Bill DeBlasio has proposed a 'mansion tax' on properties over $2.5 million.

      We should move in tandem with other coastal cities to enact similar legislation, forming compacts to defend our communities from rapacious global capital."

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    5. I'd like to have the vote fraud process take place so we can know for sure. That is how our elections are supposed to work.

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    6. Sho Tay will be the next one on his way out. He got onto the CC seat even without being voted this year. This is just so wrong, considering how bad he is.

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  22. How is it the Arcadia Weekly, Pasadena Star News and LA Times isn't covering what is happening in Arcadia? The only coverage left is the Tattler. Hopefully, everyone shares this with all their friends and neighbors. The Tattler is like an underground news source, operating below all the government censors.

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    1. Tay is paying them off.

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    2. No, Singpoli is. Tay is just an employee.

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    3. They have a lot of employees.

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  23. 4:56 PM, John Mirisch is now vice Mayor of Beverly Hills. Here's his tweeter page: https://twitter.com/johnmirisch?lang=en

    We need to ask him about the volunteer group who investigated the voter fraud there in 2008.

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  24. To 6:23pm So John MIrisch, former Mayor of Beverly Hills wrote that the D.A.'s Office in L.A. (Jackie Lacey).....refused to prosecute 2016 voter fraud in that city ? Is this to be the outcome of our voter fraud cases
    (assuming they are guilty)? Can the nightmare get any worse? Payoff's to the D.A.'s Office ? Tell me it is not so.

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    1. Indeed it seems that we cannot depend on the DA's office to do anything. The best we can do is to get volunteers to find out all the fraud votes and ask the City to turn the list over to the County Registrar Recorder. According to John Mirisch, the registrar seems to take the problem of voter fraud seriously.

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  25. Also by John Mirisch (Mayor of Beverly Hills in 2016-2017): "Fast forward to the months preceding the Nov. 2016 election: ... reports of potential illegal voters arose once again. The city received a list of over 500 voters registered at a few business addresses. We turned the list over to the Los Angeles County Registrar Recorder, who sent letters out to these 500 registered voters... It turns out that only two of the over 500 registered voters ended up verifying that they actually live in Beverly Hills."

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  26. Any of you listened to what city attorney said last night?! Those voted in Arcadia but doesn't actual live in Arcadia may not be a violation. he said one should have the "domicile" in Arcadia when voting in Arcadia. Domicile is different in meaning to residency. Your domicile can be where your most member of family lives, or you used to live there and you intent to move back. Just because someone own a property outside Arcadia doesn't mean they can't vote in Arcadia, as long as he/she didn't vote in both cities.

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    1. I wouldn't hang your hat on that. It will fall on the floor.

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    2. I don't think John Wuo's adult, married children have the domicile in Arcadia. If someone who has a home in Arcadia but is working overseas, s/he can be considered domicile.

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    3. Interesting to see what county determine.

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  27. So Trump now admits Stormy Daniels was paid off. And he suddenly volunteers that he repaid Cohen via “a monthly retainer....”

    What a convenient term for what may turn out to be payments structured to fall below the $10,000 threshold that must be reported.

    Wasn’t it structured payments that landed former House Speaker Dennis Hastert in the slammer?

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  28. California Residency

    A voter’s residence, for purposes of voter registration, is the address specified by the voter. A voter may have more than one residence, but may only register to vote at the residence the voter considers to be their domicile. For example, a voter may have homes in Red Bluff and San Diego, spending a portion of their time in each. In this case, the voter should register at the address they consider to be their principal residence, at which they have the intention of remaining, and to which they, when away, intend to return.

    A person’s residence status depends on their action and intent. If a person moves to another state or another country but intends to return, they may still claim residency in California. However, they cannot register to vote in another state and also continue to vote in California.

    If a person is in the service of the United States or the State of California, that person may retain residency in California for voting purposes if stationed elsewhere. (Elections Code § 2025.)

    A student who is going to school away from home may register to vote either at the address where they live when going to school or at the address where they live when they are not going to school. If a student is re-registering to vote at their school address, they should fill out the prior registration portion of the card to update their previous registration.

    Courts have ruled that a homeless person may register to vote at a location they state is the place where they spend most of their time. The person must provide a description of the location that is clear enough for the elections official to establish that person’s right to vote in a particular precinct. This ensures accurate elections materials can be provided to this voter. In these instances, a mailing address needs to be provided in order for the voter to receive election materials.

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