Sunday, May 6, 2018

Stormy Daniels lawyer on Trump and Giuliani: 'How stupid do they think all of us are?'

Mod: You would have thought the Stormy Daniels affair would have ended by now. Instead the President of the United States, whose affair with a porn star is just as lurid as his strangely submissive relationship with Vladimir Putin, hasn't been able to make it go away, no matter how many lawyers he hires and fires. His latest barrister, the quite dotty Rudolph Giuliani, is obviously only making matters worse for kinky President Trump.

Stormy Daniels lawyer on Trump and Giuliani: 'How stupid do they think all of us are?' (The Hill link): The attorney representing adult-film star Stormy Daniels in her defamation case against President Trump lashed out at the president and his lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, after the former New York mayor released a statement clarifying remarks he made on Fox News.

Michael Avenatti accused the two men of "making it up as they go along" after Giuliani released a statement Friday explaining his comments stating that Trump personally reimbursed his attorney, Michael Cohen, for the $130,000 payment made to Daniels days before the election.

Cohen has stated that the payment was meant to silence false allegations about then-candidate Trump in the days before the 2016 election.

"Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Trump are making it up as they go along. Never before has that old adage been more appropriate: “Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive” - W. Scott. How stupid do they think all of us are?" he tweeted, adding the hashtag #basta.

Giuliani shocked many in Washington this week when he told Fox's Sean Hannity that Trump reimbursed Cohen through his retainer fee for the payment that critics have called a campaign finance violation, seemingly negating statements made by both Trump and White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

“That was money that was paid by his lawyer, the way I would do, out of his law firm funds or whatever funds, it doesn’t matter. The president reimbursed that over a period of several months,” Giuliani said Wednesday.

Trump later suggested that wasn't fully accurate in quotes to reporters at the White House, saying Giuliani "started yesterday" and will "get his facts straight."

On Friday, Giuliani attempted to clarify those remarks, claiming that his "references to timing were not describing my understanding of the president's knowledge, but instead, my understanding of these matters."

In an interview with NBC News, Giuliani added that he did not think Trump knew about the payout to Daniels until just weeks ago.

“I don't think the president realized he paid him back for that specific thing until we made him aware of the paperwork,” he said.

Mod: It only gets worse for the apparently senescent Mr. Giuliani.

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Giuliani returned to Fox News for 8 minutes. It was a disaster again. (Think Progress link): Newly minted Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani went on Hannity last Wednesday and created major problems for his client.

He returned to Fox News and on Thursday morning and made things even worse. On Friday, he was forced to issue a statement effectively recanting everything he said the previous two days. By Saturday night he was back on Fox News. Things did not get any better. Giuliani appeared on one of Trump’s favorite programs, Justice With Judge Jeanine, which airs at 9 p.m.

He admitted that he was returning to national TV even though he is still not fully versed with the facts of the Stormy Daniels case or any other of Trump’s legal issues. “The facts I’m still learning… I’ve been on the case two weeks… I’m not an expert on the facts yet. I’m getting there,” Giuliani said.

It showed. In an interview that lasted less than 8 minutes, he made several significant errors.

Giuliani again addressed the Stormy Daniels case and the $130,000 hush money payment made by Trump’s longtime attorney Michael Cohen to the adult film actress. If the money was intended to influence the campaign, it could violate federal law.

But Giuliani told Pirro that the donation would be legal “even if it was a campaign donation.” According to Giuliani, it was legal as a campaign donation because “the president reimbursed it fully.”

This, however, is false. While candidates can donate unlimited money to their own campaigns, all campaign donations, and loans, must be reported to the Federal Election Commission (FEC). The failure to report the donation is a violation of federal law. The Stormy Daniels payment has never been reported to the FEC by Trump. If it was a campaign expense Trump broke the law.

Trump Is Said to Have Known of Payment to Stormy Daniels Months Before He Denied It (New York Times link): President Trump knew about a six-figure payment that Michael D. Cohen, his personal lawyer, made to a pornographic film actress several months before he denied any knowledge of it to reporters aboard Air Force One in April, according to two people familiar with the arrangement.

How much Mr. Trump knew about the payment to Stephanie Clifford, the actress, and who else was aware of it have been at the center of a swirling controversy for the past 48 hours touched off by a television interview with Rudolph W. Giuliani, a new addition to the president’s legal team. The interview was the first time a lawyer for the president had acknowledged that Mr. Trump had reimbursed Mr. Cohen for the payments to Ms. Clifford, whose stage name is Stormy Daniels.

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It was not immediately clear when Mr. Trump learned of the payment, which Mr. Cohen made in October 2016, at a time when news media outlets were poised to pay for her story about an alleged affair with Mr. Trump in 2006.

But three people close to the matter said that Mr. Trump knew that Mr. Cohen had succeeded in keeping the allegations from becoming public at the time the president denied it. Ms. Clifford signed a nondisclosure agreement, and accepted the payment just days before Mr. Trump won the 2016 presidential election. Mr. Trump has denied he had an affair with Ms. Clifford and insisted that the nondisclosure agreement was created to prevent any embarrassment to his family.

Mr. Giuliani said this week that the reimbursement to Mr. Cohen totaled $460,000 or $470,000, leaving it unclear what else the payments were for beyond the $130,000 that went to Ms. Clifford. One of the people familiar with the arrangement said that it was a $420,000 total over 12 months.

Mod: It is important to remember that we're talking about the President here. Who apparently is a very strange and creepy dude.

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55 comments:

  1. I just watched that video. Thanks. I can never see again.

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  2. Giuliani the Transvestite
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-feldman/giuliani-the-transvestite_b_42290.html

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  3. Some people must hate this country sooo much that they don't care what the President said or did, so long as he is breaking up the United States. It's always been that way with the enemies of the USA, it's divide and conquer. How any true Patriotic red blooded American can go along with this is a trader in my book. It's a knife in the back to a country that has helped so many.

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    1. A pervert in the White House, Nazi running for the Senate in California, and House Republicans resigning in droves. Yeah, they're in a good place.

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    2. Anti-Semitic U.S. Senate candidate booted from California GOP convention while kicking Israeli flag
      https://www.pasadenastarnews.com/2018/05/05/anti-semitic-u-s-senate-candidate-booted-from-california-gop-convention-while-kicking-israeli-flag/

      Watch his poll numbers go up.

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  4. Dear mod, polite edit: you spelled ‘Daniels’ wrong in your opening statement.

    Cheers!

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  5. The answer for the opening statement: "pretty stupid"!

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  6. $470,00, buys a lot of pasties and tassels.

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    1. She is about to make a lot more.

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  7. NBC, Tom Brokaw should have given Stormy her interview, the life of an adult porn star vs a pubescent porn star.
    CBS and BPB have Charlie Rose who would be thrilled to give Ms. Clifford a boost in her career.
    Correction; SNL has cornered the pubescent market on Stormy Daniels.

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    1. I'm confused. Explain your usage of the word " pubescent." None of the people cited in your comment are particularly young.

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    2. Fox News couldn’t get the job - half their staff and their creepy boss fired for sex harassment

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    3. Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly come immediately to mind. Though there were a lot more.

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    4. ABC News Politics

      Did Michael Cohen make payments to other women on behalf of the president? Rudy Giuliani tells @GStephanopoulos: “I have no knowledge of that, but I would think if it was necessary, yes." http://abcn.ws/2KANG5L

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    5. Playboy Bunny Karen McDougal The National Enquirer paid her $150,000 in hush money in August 2016 about her affair with Trump. Where did the money originate from and if it was from an AMI account was it reimbursed by Cohen/Trump? McDougal found out from a recent NYT's piece that her lawyer at the time, Keith Davidson, was also in touch with Michael Cohen during the negotiations with AMI. iirc, Her NDA and Stormy's were mentioned in the Michael Cohen NY search warrants.

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    6. I'd guess that the National Enquirer was reimbursed by Trump (via Cohen). So this will come out in the documents that the FBI seized from Cohen's office. As for the "other women" it's in Michael Wolff's book Fire and Fury that Cohen paid off as many as 100 women in the last couple weeks before the election. I think Wolff quotes Steve Bannon but he doesn't give any of the women's names. Most likely Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougla would be included in that number, but they aren't named in the book. There were perhaps a dozen women who refused to sign the NDA and didn't get paid to keep quiet. Those women were presumably the ones who filed charges against him for sexual misconduct - mostly for grabbing, touching or kissing without permission. I don't believe any of the women claimed they were raped, except for the 13 year old girl who was never proven and has since dropped the charges. My point is that there were a LOT of women in his past, and many happened while Trump was married.

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  8. Can this so-called Trump ‘presidency’ get any worse? What a joke he is.

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  9. The Trump administration and Voice Of Arcadia have something in common. Both claim the leader is not at fault, and blame the news media for telling the story.

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    1. “Voice of Arcadia” FB page needs to update their name to “Voice of Arcadia Fools”

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  10. Stormy Giuliani makes a much better transvestite than lawyer.

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  11. Giuliani on This Week this morning was just nuts. I mean, I'm sitting there watching it with my elderly mother and she's practically yelling at the TV because he's coming across as such a buffoon. Consistency is not something any of these people have.

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  12. Difference between Trump/Enquirer and Bill Clinton's long list of rape, grabbing, touching, kissing, was thst he had Hillary to lie and cover his assets.

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    1. Right. And he was impeached. Trump will be, too. And his wife will not defend him.

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    2. If the Democrats take over the House in January Trump is going on trial. No doubt about it. The really good thing is the Clinton impeachment will be cited as a precedent for doing so.

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    3. Maybe not, 10:56. Remember the "boys will be boys" remark?
      That woman knew what she was marrying. Something made it worth her while.

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    4. She is only there for the money. Just like all Trump's women.

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    5. Including his three wives

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  13. Fools of a FeatherMay 6, 2018 at 11:59 AM

    Trump meets with Rudy Giuliani at golf club following calamitous Sunday morning interview: report

    Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani was reportedly huddled with his client, President Donald Trump, at Trump National Golf Club in Virginia on Sunday afternoon after appearing on ABC for a widely-panned morning show appearance.

    During an interview on ABC’s This Week, Giuliani hinted that Trump may have paid off multiple women over alleged affairs, suggested that the president might invoke his Fifth Amendment rights instead of speaking to special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, and insisted that Trump could ignore a subpoena from the special counsel. Giuliani also noted that he was only “halfway” up to speed on legal matters facing his client.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/trump-meets-rudy-giuliani-golf-club-following-calamitous-sunday-morning-interview-report/

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    1. If a wise lawyer knew that he was only halfway up to speed on some matter knowing that anything he might say could incriminate his client, he would keep his mouth shut. Then again wise and Giuliani are like vinegar and oil.

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  14. Dump and Rudy would place low on IQ tests.

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    1. I'm beginning to think Rudy must have had a stroke. He is nowhere near tracking.

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    2. Nah, Rudy’s always been pretty dumb.

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  15. At what point (it can only be a matter of hours or days) did Giuliani go from Trump's lawyer to co-conspirator in an ongoing coverup and obstruction?

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    1. Giuliani is the same swamp the the goon Bernard Kerik came from. Same swamp Gingrich and Grjmp come from.

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  16. Trump is forever positioning himself as a victim. So are his supporters.

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    1. Most extremist right wingers do

      Always whining they’re being threatened by somebody

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  17. 12:27ap. Sex sells. Look at all the people making the green on Stormy Daniels claim to fame.
    Thanks for acknowledging that vinegar and oil make good salad dressing.

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    1. I can't wait for the story of the impeachment movie. "All the President's Pussy."

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    2. At this point would a Donald Trump-Roseanne Barr sex tape surprise you? It wouldn't surprise me even if it was filmed in a FEMA camp located in a tunnel under a Walmart in Texas.

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  18. Trump Ethic Attorney's Wife Found In Backseat Of A Car Doing It With Inmate
    http://www.fauquier.com/news/court-records-wife-of-trump-org-ethics-attorney-arrested-after/article_04083c9a-930a-11e7-8f7f-43944bf28329.html

    Court records: Wife of Trump Org ethics attorney arrested after tryst with Fauquier inmate

    An ongoing investigation into “suspicious” activity in the back seat of a car involving an inmate trustee at the Fauquier County jail led to the Tuesday arrest of Teresa Jo Burchfield, the wife of an ethics attorney to President Donald Trump’s business organization.

    Burchfield, 53, is married to Bobby R. Burchfield, a partner at Washington’s King and Spalding, who was appointed as an independent ethics advisor to the Donald J. Revocable Trust in January. Burchfield and the 23-year-old inmate were having sex in the car, according to a criminal complaint filed at Fauquier County General District Court.

    "The defendant was caught in the backseat of her vehicle with an inmate...," Dept. J. B. Thorpe wrote in Burchfield's criminal complaint. "When the inmate exited the vehicle, he handed me a bag of brown pills (capsules), that he claims to be workout pills."

    After the two were discovered, the inmate, Hartman said, was found in possession of cigarettes, clothes, vitamin supplements and other “unauthorized articles alleged to have been obtained from the female.”

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  19. Anthony Villaragosa and Gavin Newsum have that in Common, they both slept with their best friends wives.
    The old saying of with friends like these who needs them in public office.

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  20. Just like Trump the new round of lawyers are old, stupid and aged out to the MAX quick someone get a new diaper for these fools.

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  21. @matthewjdowd
    As I said on @ThisWeekABC to give some perspective: “Benghazi was a 4 year investigation, there were zero indictments. The Clinton emails was a 2 year investigation, there were zero indictments. The Mueller investigation has been 14 months, there have been 23 indictments.”

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  22. All you Dump supporters are remarkably quiet today. Finally coming to realize what a mistake you’ve made?

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    1. They're conflicted. While they still support Donald, they have also been longtime admirers of Stormy Daniels film career.

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  23. Still would take Trump > Clinton.

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    1. How are you going to vote in the Feinstein/Little Senate race?

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    2. Psychiatric help in your future.

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    3. 5:57 can’t vote. Incarcerated.

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    4. The Aryan Brotherhood can't be happy about that.

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    5. Of course you would still pick Dennison over Clinton 5:57. That's because Putin greatly feared Clinton as President. She's a hawk who would never bend a knee to your hero Vlad.

      The real question is why do you hate America 5:57? Unable to compete? Can't seem to get ahead in the country that provides the most opportunity? Perhaps the fault is not America's....

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    6. 5:57 is crying in his mommy’s lap.

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  24. Chancellor Dennison's supporters are indeed quiet these days.

    Putin must be angry about the incompetence of Dennison and his staff. Does Putin's anger affect the support he gives to Dennison?

    Perhaps Mod's statistics re hits and comments coming from Russia can be used as a barometer for any waxing and waning of Putin's support for the Dennison.

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