Monday, June 25, 2018

The Prop 218 Protest and Crazy Rumors About the Current Sierra Madre Water Rate Increase

I don't think there is anyone in the past who fought water rate increases in Sierra Madre more vigilantly than I did. I even sued the City of Sierra Madre over one particular water rate increase, but due to an unfortunate detail my attorney forgot about dealing with his role in that process, the lawsuit had to be abandoned. This is something I still have regrets about.

That said, I received an e-mail from some damn fool calling himself Bryan yesterday, the kind of person I really wish would not frequent this blog anymore. Lord knows I have put out a whole lot of clues for such folks, but poor old Bryan has obviously been a little poky on the uptake. Here is the ridiculously misinformed nonsense he felt he needed to share with me.

Mr. Crawford, What's going on that over a week after information and protest ballots were sent out, you still haven't covered the 50% water rate hike set to begin August 1st in Sierra Madre???  You've devoted plenty of your time to your usual, juvenile Trump bashing, while neglecting core local issues.  Shame on you.

I always find it amusing that there are still people who think I owe them something. And somehow they actually believe I will support the wild braying jackass of a claim that the current Prop 218 water foofaraw somehow involves an across the board 50% rate increase when obviously it does not.

At least not on Planet Earth.

I actually did cover the current Prop 218 water rate imbroglio, but apparently this Bryan character was doing a little power napping on May 21st and missed it. Below is the better part. Link here to view all of it it in the original.


Here are a couple of additional charts that you will need to able to do the math yourself.


All of which remains my understanding of the situation. Instead of Bryan's damn fool of an unsubstantiated claim that there is going to be a 50% general water rate increase, and that somehow I'm the enemy because I haven't accepted a ride on his merry outbound UFO, this will actually be a rate cut for every building in Sierra Madre with the exception of those unfortunate nine.

You can link to the relevant Staff Report for the May 22nd City Council meeting here.

If I am wrong, let me know. I'll gladly post what you have to say here if the evidence is compelling. Otherwise? Go elsewhere. Or don't. Just leave me out of it. If you think the city is lying, go hire a lawyer. Best of luck to you.

And look, all of this doesn't mean you shouldn't send in a Prop 218 protest ballot. Even if it is for only nine buildings. The water rate payers in town have been badly abused so many times in the past that you might want to send one in to City Hall if only out of principle. That is what I and probably around 30 other people would do.

Now if you are looking for some edgy blog excitement, tomorrow I will post something about what I believe is a spectacular act of betrayal on the part of Sierra Madre's current City Council.

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43 comments:

  1. Certainly am looking forward to tomorrows Blog "Rag". Can a blog be called a rag in today's world? Interesting subjects you come around with that gives us a chance to hear other sides. U do have a knack Mr. C.

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  2. Under California state law cities are required to supply it's residents with clean drinking water if not then your city is in Non Compliance and should be changed out at once. Being a kick the can down the road management this can and will only be obtained by increasing the fee or tariff by your local city officials 2018.

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  3. The people who are saying things that are not true about this water rate increase do more damage to the cause of community control than they seem to know. Always tell the truth. By not doing so you are doing a lot of harm.

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  4. Water rate increase. Big deal. How about the city employee wage rate increases on tomorrow night's city council agenda.

    How can we give them more money that we do not have?

    The city council should tell the employee's union to find other cities for them to work for.

    We don't have the money to fix the leaking water pipes,the streets,sidewalks,the library, or to pay the 10 million in CalPERS unfunded debt.

    How can we give raises to all the city workers?

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    1. This Prop 218 nonsense is a side issue at best. There are much bigger, and worse, things going on. The City Council's abandonment of the fight against mansionization is a disaster for Sierra Madre.

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    2. It is a Tea Party issue. Like with the UUT repeal, which failed horribly in every city they put that one on the ballot. They are also no friend to preservation, or curbing mansionization.

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    3. So 7:28 wants the city to retaliate against city employees for seeking raises and to harass them to leave.

      No doubt he'll be the biggest whiner about how much the city will have to pay in damages to those employees.

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  5. How did you fail to notice the proposed new and additional services fee? Yes the meter rates are going down 80 cents or so, but they are adding a new bi monthly infrastructure fee of between 80-150. Once again, the tattler doing a bang up job of reporting.
    You don’t owe anybody anything, but if you are going to try and influence the village idiots, try at least and be accurate occasionally.

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    1. Yes the mailer they sent out with the water bill which gives you a chance to object.

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  6. 7:09am not always so...
    Telling the truth is always the best and correct thing to do.
    What others do with the truth, is another.
    The old saying of "you can't handle the truth", comes to mind.
    Sometimes the truth works against you.
    But still, I'd rather be on the right and correct side of truth.

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  7. The same page that has the proposed meter and water rates. I have a photo of the chart I can send yi

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    1. I spoke to Gabe Engeland and this isn't anything like you claim. His explanation is below. Basically what this does is breaks out charges that were always there, but not transparent. The decline in meter rates compensates for this. But in dollar figures it is anywhere from a push to about $10 more a month. Not $80 to $150 as you claim. When originally presented to the City Council it was supposed to even out, but the CC raised it to a 10% increase, depending on rate payer usage. Here is Gabe's response:

      "That doesn’t sound like a happy comment. There are lots of changes in the new rate proposal, not just the one the commenter mentions. The current water rates for residential customers consist of 4 tiers and also have an overlay of conservation targets, which are separate from the water rates, but can increase the amount billed if use exceeds the target. The current rate design is difficult for customers to understand, and in my opinion, isn’t a very good design.

      The new rate proposal has two tiers only. The rate study also establishes an infrastructure fixed charge, this is true, however, the City is currently collecting infrastructure fees through a combination of the variable rates (the 4 tiers discussed above) and fixed rates (meter charge). The infrastructure fee proposed is designed to be more transparent, by showing precisely what the fee is being used for and how much it is, as opposed to being buried in a “meter” charge or in the rates.

      The proposed rates will impact water users differently. People need to compare the water system today with what is being proposed and decide which they like better."

      There are far more important issues facing Sierra Madre now. You need to stop.

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    2. We just got back from being out of town for awhile and I was rather shocked at some of what the water rate proposals would do. On the one hand the majority of residential customers (¾" meters) will see a reduction of 9 cents bi-monthly for the meter, but a new charge of $38.07 for "infrastructure." It's difficult to find where in the current rate structure that $38.07 is being paid now. Looks like a significant increase for nothing more than is provided now.

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  8. 7:53am you dont even live in Sierra Madre, stop with the fake accusations.
    The failed UUT as you call the ballot measure will come back to bite you in your butt!
    Oh, it already is.
    The council will vote 5-0 in favor of employees getting increases in their pay, which will also increase their CalPERS.

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    1. It is a regional blog. I just happen to like the name. Look at the Top 10 articles. Only two are about Sierra Madre. The Tea Party's stupid repeal UUT measures have set the fight against taxes back by about a decade. We stopped the UUT increase here three times. Then the Tea Party came along and we got clobbered. You guys are destructive.

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    2. McGonicle didn't even have the whatever to show up at the Kiwanis discussion on a UUT repeal.

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    3. Everything he touches dies.

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  9. 7:54am thank your Governor Jerry Brown for that added bi-monthly infrastructure increase, soon many of you will thank Gavin! Stupid is, as stupid does.

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    1. Stupid. Why do tea nuts lie so much?

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  10. People like 7:53 have no understanding of what the Planning Commission does, and marching in the streets holding signs, does very little for preservation.

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    1. When has anyone marched in the street, or challenged the planning commission by doing so?

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  11. Far more important issues facing Sierra Madre?
    Let's see. Three square miles, close to the original population that is posted on signs entering the city.
    Seems like it is more of a same s#it, different day scenario.

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  12. As I understand it, the first tier is low-under 12 units I believe and the rate doesn’t change. The rate jumps up on the second tier and that will affect people with families of say 4 or more. It is a big increase.

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  13. 9:12am your thought process is seriously flawed, i hope you can take a deep breath and revisit the reasons why the UUT lost, otherwise, you just don't get it.

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  14. So blogger 9:14, the Moderator and the majority in Sierra Madreans voted for the highest taxes in Los Angeles County, you got what you voted for, why are you finding anything to complain about.
    The council is only following the money, and from your voting YES to keep the 10% forever tax, you gave the green light.

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  15. Tea Party reasoning is always seriously flawed. It discredits everyone who wants to reform government.

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  16. I'm glad to see this article and the comments, because the 7 pages of material the city sent out is not the easiest thing to get through. How about if the city actually gets into the whole service thing, and individualize the information? Tell each household, "Your bill will increase by this much."

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  17. And 9:41am you reform the government by giving them as much money as possible?
    Ha ha ha ha ha, good one!

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    1. What is it you think you're doing?

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  18. I did the math. My summer/fall bimonthly bills will go up $53 (or about $26.50/month if you prefer). Medium/largish lot by local standards, and the lawns have been removed.

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  19. Harley Davidson moving some production to Europe due to EU tariffs imposed in retaliation against Trump tariffs.

    How many other companies will do likewise?

    Thank you pr*sident Trump for saving American jobs by shipping them overseas.

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  20. The Ever Tightening Noose: Special counsel seizes phones, computer of Trump associate who attended secret Seychelles meeting

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    1. That guy is more that a mere associate—- he’s the corrupt former head of Blackwater, the evil mercenary contractor that killed Iraqi civilians. And he’s the brother of trump cabinet secretary Betsy DeVos.

      Doesn’t get any swampier than that.

      Trolls trumped again.

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  21. How many American's want to buy a Harley Davidson bike made over seas?
    Few if any, MAGA takes support from American companies, i would pay more for a Made in American bike, will not for a cheep knock off, even if its just the spokes or gas tank.

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    1. The point went entirely over your head.

      Or more likely, your comment reads better in the original Russian. ("American's" "Few if any, MAGA takes support" "i" "Made in American" "cheep" --- C'mon, if you don't wake up, your commissar will realize you're not even trying.)

      If all Harleys sold worldwide are made in America and now due to Trump's asinine tariffs some or many of those motorcycles will be made overseas, FEWER motorcycles will be made in America, meaning a decrease in American jobs. And this is just the beginning.

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    2. Lol that’s the most hilarious spin ever

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    3. Lol you are so obviously foreign it’s hilarious

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  22. My water bill should decrease under the new rates..........

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  23. As I read it for the residential consumer: Tier 1, per unit cost goes UP 1 cent, for units of water between 0-14. Tier 2, per unit goes UP 76 cents, for units of water greater than 14 and Tier 3 and 4 are eliminated. Also there is no mention of the Conservation Target or fines.

    The meter rates for 5/8" and 3/4" go down 11 cents. Also rates down for 1" 1 1/2" 2" but higher for 3" and 4".

    What is absolutely new is the Recommended Infrastructure Charge: 5/8 and 3/4 $38.07 bimonthly, and higher cost for the other size meters. This charge is to build a fund to do repairs as the City Council spent down there reserves to 0. Maybe they should have added this earlier in a smaller amount and then the reserve and new charge could have managed the improvements without nearing catastrophe.

    Correct me if I have got this wrong.

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  24. Trolls get trumped again!!

    Trump slams Red Hen for being 'filthy.' Inspectors found no violations but Mar-a-Lago was cited 78 times in three years.

    The Associated Press found the president's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida was cited 78 times over three years for health code violations, including cooking staff not washing their hands and the “accumulation of black/green mold-like substance” on an ice machine.

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  25. Dirty Little Red Hen

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    1. That’s the nickname for trump’s hair
      😂😂

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