Thursday, June 21, 2018

Why A Rogue President Was Forced To Back Down On Family Separation

Mod: There was a lot of interest in this story yesterday in the comments. Here by popular demand are some of the latest stories out there in Big Media.

Why A Rogue President Was Forced To Back Down On Family Separation (The New Yorker link): Why did Donald Trump reverse himself on Wednesday and call an end to his policy of separating migrant families detained at the southern border? It was clear from the start that the policy was cruel, heartless, and unnecessary. Although there has been a spike in the number of asylum seekers in recent months, the overall number of undocumented immigrants coming into the United States from Mexico and other Latin American countries is significantly lower than it was a decade ago. There is no “crisis” at the southern border, except the humanitarian one of Trump’s own making. Trump’s picture of the United States being swamped—or, in his words, “infested”—by Latino migrants is a fantasy that he concocted to whip up the racial fears and antipathies of his core supporters.

Clearly, Trump didn’t make this U-turn because he had grown tired of fear-mongering and racial incitement, or because he had experienced a crisis of conscience. (It’s far from clear that he’s even capable of such a thing.) He reversed course because he had no choice politically. Although he often adopts the rhetoric and body language of an authoritarian strongman, he’s an elected politician. And in the face of mass outrage, bipartisan opposition, and condemnation from church groups and other civil-society institutions, the child-separation policy was no longer sustainable.

At most, this was a very partial U-turn. If Trump’s executive order survives the inevitable legal challenges, which is far from certain, it will keep more than two thousand children away from their parents, and it could well lead to the creation of a chain of semi-permanent refugee camps on the southern border. Trump only went this far because he was facing a public relations disaster and a rebellion from Republicans fearful of losing control of Congress in the midterms.

A Quinnipiac University opinion poll that was released earlier this week indicated that Americans opposed the child-separation policy by an overwhelming margin of more than two to one. Only a majority of Republicans supported the policy. As The Atlantic’s Ronald Brownstein pointed out, on Twitter, white, non-college-educated white women, a key voting group for the G.O.P., were opposed to the policy by the whopping margin of fifty-six per cent to thirty per cent. And this poll was taken before the latest reports and pictures from inside the child-detention centers.

The Trump administration misspelled “separation” in an executive order on family separation (Vox link): The Trump administration released its highly anticipated executive order on family separation Wednesday afternoon. And in the grand tradition of many Trump White House documents, something wasn’t quite right. See if you can spot it:


That’s right: The order meant to address family separation misspelled “separation.”

While the misspelling was quickly fixed, the latest example of the Trump administration’s ongoing struggles in that domain (see: the Department of Education Snapchat) left the impression that the executive order had been prepared hastily.

The White House’s executive order addresses the administration’s controversial “zero tolerance” policy that criminally prosecutes all adults entering the United States illegally. As part of this policy, adults were held in federal jail while awaiting trial and their children were put in federal custody, forcing family separations.

Migrant Children Drugged Without Consent At Government Centers, Court Documents Show (Huffington Post link): Staff working on the behalf of the Office of Refugee Resettlement are routinely drugging detained child migrants with psychotropics without their parents’ consent, according to legal filings.

Trump administration officials have repeatedly insisted that the family separation policy they implemented over the last six weeks is humane. But the ongoing lawsuit over the Flores agreement, a 1997 settlement that partly governs the detention of child migrants that the White House hopes to overturn, alleges a litany of wrongdoings at the ORR-contracted facilities.

The drugging allegations are among the most disturbing. One child cited in the lawsuit reported taking up to nine pills in the morning and another seven in the evening, without knowing what the medication was.

ORR routinely administers children psychotropic drugs without lawful authorization,” a memo filed in the lawsuit on April 16 reads. “When youth object to taking such medications, ORR compels them. ORR neither requires nor asks for a parent’s consent before medicating a child, nor does it seek lawful authority to consent in parents’ stead. Instead, ORR or facility staff sign ‘consent’ forms anointing themselves with ‘authority’ to administer psychotropic drugs to confined children.”

Lewandowski refuses to apologize for 'womp womp' comment (CNN link): Corey Lewandowski refused to apologize Wednesday after he dismissed the story of a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome who was reportedly separated from her mother after crossing the border illegally.

While appearing Tuesday on Fox News, former senior Democratic National Committee adviser Zac Petkanas shared an anecdote he had read about "a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome" who had been "taken from her mother and put in a cage."

"Womp Womp," the former Trump campaign manager responded.

Lewandowski refused to apologize for the remark when asked about it on Fox News Wednesday morning.

Stephen Miller called 'fascist' by protester at Mexican restaurant (The Hill link): White House senior adviser Stephen Miller was called a fascist earlier this week while dining at a Mexican restaurant in Washington, D.C., according to the New York Post.

The encounter took place on Sunday at Espita Mezcaleria. The Post reports that a patron of the restaurant called out Miller — an immigration hardliner — over the Trump administration's zero tolerance policy that separates migrant families.

“Hey look guys, whoever thought we’d be in a restaurant with a real-life fascist begging [for] money for new cages?” a customer said to Miller, according to the Post.

Miller reportedly did not respond to the hecklers.

The incident occurred just a few days before activists similarly interrupted Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen's dinner at a Mexican restaurant, resulting in her leaving the restaurant.

The group repeatedly yelled “shame” at Nielsen and “End Texas concentration camps.”

US officials likely lost track of nearly 6,000 unaccompanied migrant kids (McClatchy Media link): The Trump administration has likely lost track of nearly 6,000 unaccompanied migrant children, thousands more than lawmakers were alerted to last month, according to a McClatchy review of federal data.

Federal officials acknowledged last month that nearly 1,500 unaccompanied minors arrived on the southern border alone without their parents and were placed with sponsors who did not keep in touch with federal officials, but those numbers were only a snapshot of a three- month period during the last fiscal year. “There is a lot more,” said a field specialist who worked in the Office of Refugee Resettlement until earlier this year and was tasked with reaching out to sponsors and children to check on their well-being. “You can bet that the numbers are higher. It doesn’t really give you a real picture.”

The new estimate comes as backlash widens over President Donald Trump's' decision to separate parents and children. Advocates argue the growing numbers of unaccounted children should be expected as families and sponsors become more fearful of federal officials that is now using information from government social workers to run immigration checks and, in some cases, target sponsors, including parents and family members, for removal.

'Was that a man or a woman?' Trump mocks protester at Minnesota rally (USA Today link): After protesters interrupted President Donald Trump's Minnesota rally, the president mocked one protester's appearance questioning whether they were a man or a woman.

"Was that a man or a woman? Because he needs a haircut more than I do," Trump joked as the protester was escorted out of the Duluth event. "I couldn't tell. Needs a haircut." The protester appeared to hold a picture of Trump with another person. Trump also told the protester to "go home to your mom, darling. Go home." The crowd chanted "USA" as the demonstrator was escorted out of the crowd.

During the rally, Trump also praised North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, predicting he'll "turn that country into a great, successful country," blamed Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., for his no vote on an Obamacare repeal last year and bashed the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

The rally came just hours after Trump signed an executive order that aims to stop family separations on the border while still maintaining a "zero tolerance" policy to prosecute all illegal immigrants. The Trump administration faced harsh, bipartisan backlash over the policy, which resulted in the separation of more than 2,000 children of adult illegal immigrants in the past month. The scope of the order, however, did not address how the already-separated children would be reunited with their parents.

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109 comments:

  1. "Seperation?" This is America. Speak English.

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  2. I'll bet the Tattler was really upset when Obama separated children from their parents.

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    1. First lie of the day demolished.

      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/

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    2. I heard Snopes was backed by a Soros concern. Is that true?

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    3. Of course not. Your nose must be halfway out the kitchen window by now.
      https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-snopes-busted-ties-to-soros/

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    4. Paranoid radical right wingers evolve into terrorists. Please check yourself before it’s too late

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    5. 6:29 is a fake news pusher who hates Snopes because it exposes his nonsense.

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    6. Alas, the tattler allows fake post to pass every day

      All they have to do is plant the seed of doubt-

      Soros owns tattler
      Obama is Muslim
      Hillary/Benghazi

      That’s how lies become truth

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  3. Alabama musician's shows cancelled after he 'volunteers' on Facebook to 'shoot' immigrants
    https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/06/venue_cancels_alabama_musician.html

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    1. I'm sure there are a few Klan picnics where he can entertain.

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  4. I'm sure most of you over the years have seen the flag or have heard the saying The South Shall Rise Again? Well guess what, the SOUTH IS RISING UP AGAIN. Your miss guided bickering is feeding their cause. Get off your pulpits and see the big picture while you can do something about it. Unite, don't divide.

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    1. That’s two days in a row you’ve misspelled ‘misguided’. Nice pulpit analogy though

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    2. Yes. Everybody be quiet. It's upsetting the KKK.

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    3. The South is imploding with hate, and it's driving out the real conservatives. Blue wave coming.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/southern-baptists-call-off-the-culture-war/563000/

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  5. Why 'donald j trump' likes rabble raising rally's - his idol called adolf hitler' liked beer hall rally just like 'donald j trump' does.

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  6. Yes we should let the poor and uneducated from Latin America take over America because reasons If a criminal has children they should never go to jail so there is no separation from children.

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    1. Ah'm skeered of them ferners.

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    2. How rich and educated are you?

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    3. Git dang, yaw!

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  7. There are many iniquities in this world. As Americans we can’t solve them all. Mexico should be responsible for their citizens but they never are. I am proud to have had a Mexican gardener for many years. Many years ago he applied for citizenship and was proud to do so. I am the only yard he services in Sierra Madre. He pays a large fee to the city for working for the city. We pay it for him as we are very pleased to have him work for us. It’s interesting to me that the guys that get hired at the park or Home Depot never have to pay a fee like that. They usually get paid in cash, so I must assume they don’t pay taxes on it. How much is that in city fees and taxes that are lost? That’s just the tip of the iceberg. There are so many other unseen costs to citizens of this country that are caused by immigrants whose home countries do not see to their health and wellbeing. How do you suggest that we keep these children safe? How do we keep citizens safe until these children are checked for various diseases? Why is TB endemic in Los Angeles? Where did Zika come from? I see a lot of complaining but no suggestions as to how to fix this problem. As a tax payer all of my life I want to help my own citizens first. There is a lot of poverty in this country that never gets addressed. We need to clean up our own backyard before we take on the problems that other countries pawn off on us.

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    1. Mexico has universal health care. A lot of Americans who cannot afford health care in the United States travel to Mexico for treatment. Same with Canada. There is now a large business in selling Canadian pharmaceuticals in the US because of the vastly lower price.

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    2. Forbes: Why I Prefer To Get My Health Care In Latin America
      https://www.forbes.com/sites/nextavenue/2018/02/22/why-i-prefer-to-get-my-health-care-in-latin-america/#453552ce2e47

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    3. My Hispanic friend and siblings, all born here, Mom is a naturalized US citizen, go to Mexico for health care because it is so much cheaper and they get quality care.

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    4. The US has caused or contributes much of the trouble in Latin america that is now blowing back to us

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  8. 7:16 the people of Mexico are leaving the country because of all the killings, the cartel taking the business's money and the corrupt government not doing anything about it. That is just another form of taxes in that country, wonder how long before our corrupt government will see USA citizens moving to Mexico?

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    1. YES!! Thanks for explaining this to such a one sided naive Gardner.

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    2. Americans can't emigrate to Mexico. Their laws are too strict. Go figure.

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  9. Don't know if it was Obama or Clinton's presidency that wanted to register every illegal. As you will recall the Republicans stopped that action, they wanted to handle it this way I guess, by separating the family and caging them like animals. The hard core right who still support the trump should be deported back to where they and their parents came from, that would make this country great again.

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    1. Love your rationale, 8:06. Remember how Trump told the NFL players who protested to go back to their countries? I just heard on the news (not Fox, of course) that two or three New England Patriots moderated a forum for those running for Massachusetts's Attorney General. They said they wanted to do something that WILL make a difference. Guess I'd better root for them next season. Also, American and United Airlines will no longer transport these kids ripped from their parents' arms. It's good to know that there is some integrity somewhere, since Congress seems to have lost it.

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  10. Time for new orders.

    Trump Plans July Meeting With Vladimir Putin
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-20/trump-is-said-to-plan-meeting-with-putin-in-europe-in-july

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  11. And take their pianos with them.

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  12. Giuliani's act of love sets off GOP furor - Rudy Giuliani’s love life is causing trouble for the White House.

    In a move that blindsided the West Wing and sent Hill Republicans into a tizzy, the president’s personal attorney is throwing his support behind an obscure House candidate in Louisiana trying to take out incumbent GOP Rep. Clay Higgins. But the bizarre tale of Giuliani’s interest in an off-the-radar congressional race only begins there.

    It turns out the ex-New York mayor’s new girlfriend, GOP fundraiser Jennifer LeBlanc, is working for the Republican challenger in the race, Josh Guillory. LeBlanc had been on Higgins’ payroll until late last year when she abruptly parted ways with the congressman.

    "We have a National Enquirer-type situation going on down in Louisiana's 3rd Congressional District," said state Attorney General Jeff Landry, a Higgins backer who hails from the area.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/20/rudy-giuliani-love-life-white-house-657981

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  13. Meanwhile, back in the Real World:
    Susan Rice Ordered NSC Officials To ‘Stand Down’ In Response To ‘Russian Meddling’ Attempts

    https://www.chicksonright.com/2018/06/21/bombshell-susan-rice-ordered-nsc-officials-to-stand-down-in-response-to-russian-meddling-attempts/

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    1. Consider the source. Plus Susan Rice is black, so naturally "Chicks On The Right" are going to smear her. The American far right has become little more than a 5th Column for Vladimir Putin. Time to send these traitors to Guantanamo.

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    2. Now that is one creepy website

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    3. 9:11 why are you afraid of powerful women?

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    4. The "chicks" are nitwits.

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  14. Looks like too much in-breading in the far right, that would explain it.

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  15. The far right is some of the most embarrassing citizens America has. For generations they have said the South Shall Rise Again and they are. Guns and all their crazy interbreeding needs to be brought out of the closet. Hillary was right and that's why they still hate her. Although she did apologize! Didn't Giuliani marry his cousin first?

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  16. Brother a lot of trumpies today!
    Where do people get these horrific ideas, thoughts, opinions?

    These are PEOPLE!! Not all of then are criminals. But, the children are being separated. That
    is very very Nazi thinking. Drunp created the crisis and does not care about the welfare of the chldren from a moral or political point of view. His entire cabine and childrent are self centered greedy, dogmatic rigid megalomaniacs.

    No compassion for others. Don't your readers know how to put themselves in the place of people WALKING to the USA and then innocent children being ripped out of their arms? It's unthinkable and inconceivable, but happening.
    Thanks for covering this issue, j John.
    March again on June 30th,

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  17. 6:20am exactly. Tell that to all those illegal immigrants coming into this country.

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    1. Trump and his cronies are illiterate. Goes along with the rest of their native stupidity.

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  18. Thank you 6:56am. May be too late. The Progressive Left want cheap slave labor, that is their only dog in this fight.
    Illegal immigrants will do the work that the elites refuse to do.

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    1. This is absolutely ridiculous. Everybody hires cheap labor. Right, left, in-between and don't care. That is why people from other countries come here. People give them jobs and a paycheck. Maybe if you were to go out and pick tomatoes farmers wouldn't need to hire them. Go ahead. Get up off your lazy ass and do some field work.

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    2. Tomorrow this same poster will call Democrats socialist because they want to raise the minimum wage

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  19. Remember the fema camps that Alex Jones said a President Obama was going to put conservatives in? It appears those fema camps are now the reality concentration camps for migrants who are fleeing. Toddler prisons were not predicted by crazy jones. Twitler went even lower.

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  20. Company that runs shelters hired a kiddie porn collector...Immigrant child detention center hired ex-Border Patrol agent busted for child porn The nonprofit Southwest Key organization hired a former Border Patrol agent to work with immigrant children despite a previous arrest for child pornography.

    Ernesto Padron resigned from the government agency in 2010 after his arrest, but he was hired last year to work at the Casa Padre shelter where boys 10-17 are being held, reported Texas Monthly. He was arrested in 2008, after an undercover FBI sting, for alleged possession of child pornography, a second-degree felony, according to publicly available criminal court records in Cameron County.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/06/immigrant-child-detention-center-hired-ex-border-patrol-agent-busted-for-child/

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  21. There goes the Nobel Prize.

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  22. 8:46am what sexist remark coming from such a burly man as yourself.
    Women, or blacks and chicks,as you refer to them, do not smear other women.
    Educated women will call out others that break US laws.

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    1. "Chicks On The Right" is a reactionary website that pushes the Trump/Putin agenda. It is what they call themselves. If you're offended by such usage take your complaints to them. I am sure they'll love to hear from you.

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    2. Nice try
      And you haven’t yet recovered from yesterday’s beat down

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    3. 9:22 appears to be afraid of females, too.

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  23. Migrants for the most part are fleeing a corrupt government where there is no control over the large gangs, "cartel's ". They come here to work and, work for the American dream only to be caged and separated like animals. Make the Migrants your friend, register them and help them gain citizenship where they can pay taxes, and point out the gang members in the group.

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  24. Ahh 9:26am. Nice and naive don't work well together.
    The United States has more than it's share of legal citizens that would benefit from work.
    Broken countries around the world is not a US problem.
    Each corrupt country should have it's populations rise up and make changes to their government.
    There is a legal path for American citizenship each applicant needs to take.

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    1. In your mind that justifies caging 5 year olds and feeding them strong drugs?

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    2. Oh. It when the US breaks the other countries then it is our problem

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  25. Congress fix the broken laws, protect this country.

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    1. Fix your broken soul first

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    2. And you fix your broken head.

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    3. Well played, sir, well played.

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  26. Screwy Lewie just got womped.

    Corey Lewandowski dropped by speakers bureau

    Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski has been dropped by his speakers bureau after dismissing the story of a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome who was reportedly separated from her mother after crossing the border illegally, CNN has learned.

    Leading Authorities, Inc., one of Washington DC's top speakers bureaus, severed ties with Lewandowski on Wednesday, a source familiar with the matter said. His name no longer appears on the bureau's website.

    Speakers bureaus like LAI handle speaking gigs for notable political and media personalities, which can be a lucrative business. Speakers can net five- or even six-figure checks for one engagement.

    Lewandowski has drawn widespread criticism for remarks he made on Fox News on Tuesday. When former senior Democratic National Committee adviser Zac Petkanas talked about "a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome" who had been "taken from her mother and put in a cage," Lewandowski dismissed the anecdote, saying, "Womp womp." http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/21/media/corey-lewandowski-speakers-bureau/index.html

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  27. 9:43, broken countries around the world are not a US problem. Talk abut naive, your at the top of the list.

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    1. If broken countries around the world weren’t a US problem then why do we do we have 800 military basis overseas across 70 countries?

      You’ll understand when you grow up. Hopefully.

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    2. 10:25 is one of those guys who thinks he doesn't have to pay taxes but gets upset when there are potholes in the road.

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  28. Motto of Democrats: never let a crisis go to waste.

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    1. Trump just keeps screwing up, and the Dems just keep beating him over the head.

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    2. Right wing extremist motto- create a crisis for personal profit.

      Afghanistan, Iraq, tamiflu, homeland security

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  29. You fell for it again. Now the whole family gets detained for a longer period instead of the kids going to summer camp at our expense.

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    1. Did your kids go to a summer camp where they were kept in cages?

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  30. ^2+b^2=c^2 Pythagoras Theorem.
    Today is the longest day in the Northern Hemisphere.

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  31. 10:53am would that be to keep these third world countries from killing each other? I agree with you, the US should save money and let these ignorant peasants kill each other.
    Take the US Military out of these areas, suport isolationism.

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    1. You are so ignorant. The us overthrows or corrupts their government for the benefit of the corporate elites you worship. The blowback is the aftermath of your colonialism

      You and your kind are now feeling the same suffering as the rest you exploit

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    2. isolatinism is naive

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    3. 2:52 demonstrated against "Bush's War" I bet.

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  32. 1:06, it's the governments causing their people to act out. Kill them, beat them, take their money and starve them, eventually your going to have an uprising on your hands when you don't protect them. Looks like your part of the problem, not at all a kind hearted, solution finding soul. Yep, definitely of the me me world without a care for your fellow humans. You fit right in with the crazy bunch tearing this country apart, I bet you kick your dog.

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    1. Well said.

      Too many of their mindset lurking out in the open these days.

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  33. Trump is a developer. Can't you tell?

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  34. Again 3:01pm. What part of, it is not our problem, dont you understand?
    Are you saying the US should police other countries in the world? Cant have it both ways.
    Isolation is not naive, Bernie Sanders is an advocate for this type of governing.

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    1. This from someone who supports the president that kissed the butt of mass murderer Kim Jong Un.

      I'd say the problem really is yours, 4:16. Though not in the good way.

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    2. No, I’m saying your argument is worthless

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  35. Hey 2:39pm Tamiflu? What about the war on Opiods?

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  36. Melania Dump a little clueless.

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    1. Nice jacket she wore today.

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    2. It was Melania's "Let them eat cake" moment.

      Melania dons jacket saying 'I really don't care. Do U?' ahead of her border visit -- and afterward
      https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/21/politics/melania-trump-jacket/index.html

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    3. I think she has anger issues. Then again, look at what she is married to. Fat boy grabby hands.

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  37. Melania Trump wearing a jacket that has "I don't really care do U" on the back when she is off to see the migrant children? That is just too bizarre. I'd almost think it is "fake news," because no one could be that stupid and callus ....oh, wait, she's married to Donnie.

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    1. Remember when the corporate right wing media led by fox went bonkers because obama simply wore a beige suit once?

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    2. Remember, this is the woman who embraced the linguistically challenged slogan, "Be best."

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    3. Remember when she wore high-heel stilettos to visit hurricane victims?

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    4. Remember when she plagiarized Michelle Obama’s speech?

      Idiot

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    5. Remember when Fox News said Obama didn't have an American flag pin on his lapel?

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  38.  943  DAYS 15  HOURS 32 MINUTES
    Until Dump leaves office (or earlier when impeached)


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    1. I'm knocking on doors for someone in October/November, maybe the person running against Rohrbacher (if the ballots ever get certified - I think there is a 60 vote difference as of today), or Knight in Palmdale, or Nunes, Trump's lackey.

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  39. 5:44/45pm. Wearing a "i really don't care do u" designer's jacket and then visiting the illegal migrant children showed her care and compassion, now share with the bloggers on Tattler what you did today to make a difference in the world.

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    1. I covered my mouth when I sneezed.

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    2. I donated $100 to the ACLU... in your name.

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    3. Organizing my friends to march yet again, this time on June 30.

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  40. It was meant for the media and people like you

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    1. How inventive. Making excuses for Trumps is a full time job.

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  41. All you trump minions are evil trash losers..

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  42. 8:12pm not according to my portfolio, MAGA.

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    1. The Obama plan to save the GOP-destroyed-economy has been increasing the returns on my portfolio for many years, too.

      In fact, Obama's plan was so robust that Trump hasn't been able to destroy the economy yet. But, of course, he's trying very hard and that day will come because he owes it to his Russian owners to give them the opportunity to buy American assets on the cheap.

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  43. It's not getting reported much if at all, but aren't many of the migrants fleeing gangs that gained power as a result of the Republican led drug war, which skyrocketed the price of drugs and enriched and empowered the drug gangs?

    So didn't the GOP create the migration that has been occurring, which they now have amplified into a fake crisis that is not actually a "crisis" because migration actually decreased substantially during the Obama years?

    Since there really is no true migration "crisis," can we reasonably conclude that Trump and his "womp womp" GOP enablers actually derive enjoyment from hurting others in the same way that sociopaths derive pleasure from hurting others?

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