Wednesday, July 11, 2018

City Council Meeting: Of Course They Want A Parcel Tax - Did You Ever Really Believe They Didn't?

John Capoccia starring as Leon Trotsky (or is that Taxsky?) - video here

It was only two years ago that this same City Council was running around town proclaiming that Measure UUT would solve nearly all of Sierra Madre's big financial problems. And two words that were always on their smiling lips was "The Library." All the taxpaying voters would need to do is pass the "forever tax" and you would never have to worry about anything like that ever again.

The actual Leon Taxsky
Now it is two years later and the three big spending dudes on the City Council not only want yet another tax, but they want to tear the current Library building down and spend somewhere around $9 million dollars to replace it. And the two Johns and a Gene are happy to make the arrangements for you to pay the bill.

Heck, they'll even let you vote yourself a nice new parcel tax. Even though 57% of those responding to the Library Survey said they opposed imposing such a tax upon Sierra Madre to pay for a new Library building.

Which is kind of funny if you think about it. Remember when the City Council said they would prefer to send out survey cards than put the Library matter to a vote of the people? That these scientific wonder cards would give them a more nuanced and richer understanding of what you the resident really wants?

Well, since that Library survey didn't give them the tax results they wanted, or much else for that matter, now they suddenly want a vote. Since certain Councilmembers were already going to ignore any results they didn't like, why couldn't they have saved the city $18,000 and just put this on the ballot in the first place?

Besides, and as I've said before, new taxes always come to Sierra Madre in two year cycles. City Hall cannot help itself. Experience would have taught you that this was coming.

Imposing a parcel tax upon Sierra Madre would not be the easiest thing to do. I asked City Manager Gabe Engeland what it would take to pass such a tax. This was his response.


It would also take a 4/5s vote of the City Council to put a parcel tax measure on the ballot. Outside of the Three Taxing Amigos, who else is going to vote for it? Rachelle Arizmendi is a doubtful vote for that, and said so. And as you saw last night, Mayor Delmar battled to a draw with common sense.

Oh, and did you see Gene Goss lose it when Mayor Delmar dared to ask City Staff to do some research and come up with some solid facts and figures on what this boondoggle might actually end up costing the taxpayers? I thought ol' Goss was going to give birth when he heard that.

Obviously it was not easy being an adult in Council Chambers last night. Here is what the Tax Triplets want to dun you over.


Think about it. A new and completely taxpayer funded $9 million dollar Library building in a city that cannot afford to fix its water infrastructure, fight mansionization, pay off its bizarre water bonds, master its CalPERS debt, or repair sidewalks and streets. Maybe we need to hire a detective to find out exactly where this City Council lost its responsibility?

These weighty matters will all be coming back this fall. After the City Council takes the month of August off. Be prepared for even more fun.

And please remember, the same good old boys who were behind the failed Downtown Specific Plan, the destruction of One Carter, pension debt, and interest only payments on millions of dollars in frivolous water bonds, are now pushing to spend $9 million big ones in new parcel tax money on a Library building the community has already clearly said it doesn't want.

What could possibly go wrong?

You think I'm kidding?

Here is an interesting agenda item from the year 2002.


As was revealed at last night's meeting, the Library Board of Trustees has already been discussing fundraising. Pat Hall announced that they have a steering committee for a foundation. Care to take a wild guess who is doing the legal paperwork? Bart Doyle.

I'm telling you, some of these people behind this Library nonsense are also responsible for some of the worst disasters that happened to Sierra Madre this century.

Nothing they touch lives.

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76 comments:

  1. Why can't they just keep it simple and fix the library?

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    1. I'll add to that 6:30, why can't they admit the library is charming but obsolete?

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  2. No one ever said Measure UUT would fix all the city's financial problems or that it would save the library. The only person who ever made that claim is you.

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    1. Oh. What was it supposed to do?

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    2. It was supposed to keep the city from massively cutting services which would have happened had it failed.

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    3. Still waiting for you to prove your claim that the UUT campaign and city council members are largely funded by public employee unions who as a result influence council votes. Except there will be no proof because its just another example of the made-up nonsense you spew.

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    4. I have a Public Records request in with the city. I'll post it when I get it.

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    5. The mod is correct, they definitely claimed that the library would not be an issue if the UUT was permanently increased. This council, or at least part of it is an absolute joke, specifically Goss, but Harabedian and Cappccia are awful too. Goss is a future government pensioner so he feels indebted to "give back" to the community. He doesn't live in the real world like the rest of us.

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    6. Did you ever notice the elected officials, like Goss, always want to "give back" with your money instead of donating out of their own pockets? Funny how that works.

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    7. Phony crony BS.

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  3. Never trust a guy still wearing a goatee in the year 2018

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    1. True. Can someone drop off a razor at Capoccia's house?

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  4. The rule of thumb with new taxes is before they are approved they will work wonders, but after they are voted into existence are never enough.

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  5. These taxes are imposed by voters on themselves. It’s false for you to claim the council is raising taxes. They don’t have the legal ability to raise taxes.

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    1. Before this parcel tax initiative is put on the ballot it must first be approved by at least 4 out of the 5 city council members. That is significant participation.

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    2. 7.28 seems concerned about the parcel tax. Maybe he knows it isn't all going to the Library?

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    3. That's guaranteed, as is the fact that once the library would be built and you pay your extra $250-360/year for the next several decades, that parcel tax is never dropping off your annual statement and don't believe ANYONE that assures you otherwise.

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    4. Agreed 8:01. "It will have a sunset clause" is a trick you fall for just once.

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  6. You seem to have trouble accepting election results. Maybe it’s the Russians.

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    1. The voters turned down a UUT increase 3 times. It pays to be stubborn.

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  7. Sierra Madre city hall seems to be addicted to your tax dollars? How clean is city hall these days? I mean with all the soul searching along with overhead reductions, this will never happen either, suggest people start reviewing where city hall really spends their money - has anyone asked the city council members to forfeit their token pay back to the cities coffers yet? Start their and see who ponies up first, that is the one who might be honest.

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  8. So the voters shouldn’t be allowed to vote on policies you don’t like. Seems like you have trouble with democracy.

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    1. Maybe you don't like opposition to taxes that will go into your pocket.

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    2. 7:38, correction, we technically live in a republic by definition.

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  9. Don’t forget we also need a new state of the art police station with a community meeting room and a new fire station with white boards to show the history of the fire station.

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    1. The police and the fire departments are essential. The library is not.

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    2. Contract the Fire and Police to the County. Let LA County help pay for those fancy buildings.

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    3. We are a community of boutique services.

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    4. Enjoy your services!

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  10. What is wrong with the LACFD and the LASD handling Fire and Police? It's only money Sierra Madre would be saving? Then put the savings to work on other tasks ahead for the city to repair or replace in 2018

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  11. Water delivery clean and reliable. Fire protection. Priorities. Library way down the list.

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  12. 7:48, the city has always taken advantage of the personality types that the Fire and EMS responders bring to the community. Couldn't believe they got Paramedics for $12.50 an hour. &12.50 an hour for the biggest life saving force the city has. That's taking advantage of souls that just want to help there fellow human. Now with more EMS calls across the street we need to be concerned with delayed response times to the rest of the city.

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    1. That's essentially a training wage under which they gather experience and move on to positions like the LAFD down the road. A buddy of mine was getting paid $8.00 an hour in the 90's to be an EMT. He now has a permanent government position with a pension in another state.

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    2. Minimum wage is a small price to get on a permanent position with a 20 year pension and enough time for a side business buying apt. buildings.
      Don't cry for me, Argentina!

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  13. Now the ugly truth comes out and it has to be one if not two reasons for their insanity.
    The three knuckleheads on this council are great at spending everyone's money, they have no backbone or history of making educated decisions.
    The other would be that they are in cahoots with the Big Dirts, Doyle, Stockly, Hayes, and that they are being blackmailed, better hide your wives boys.

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  14. After the parcel tax is set in place the city will need to institute a sparkle tax on unicorn owners in town. A lot of the library board people are unicorners.

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  15. Now is the time to say to yourselves, we were duped, the UUT should have been recalled, then this council would have to do some real work and soul searching.

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  16. 8:39am The Kensington is a private business, they should be contracting outside the city for their EMS needs.
    If we determined that a emergency call was delayed or redirected to that private business over a resident in Sierra Madre, there would be one heck of a great lawsuit filed.
    One of the discussions in City Chambers was that the Keninston not over utilize the Paramedics in town.

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  17. Why is that back vacant lot behind the library being held out of any decisions? Is there something wrong with that property? Are there major pollutants buried underground?
    Why wont the selling of that property be discussed? Has it already been sold and the residents are just unaware?

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    1. After watching the meeting last night, I would venture to guess that the small lot hasn't been sold because Doyle and company need that land for a new library.

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    2. Maybe the small lot hasn't been sold because a prior council properly rezoned it to govt. use instead of housing?

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  18. Appears that the new City Manager Mr. Engeland has been wined and dined by Bart Doyle and company.

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  19. Blow or not to blow, was the Fire Horn on the city agenda an action item? Was there any public input?
    It reminds our family of the beginnings of Sierra Madre and our first Fire and Paramedic; George Maurer and his Station Wagon, when he would take Sierra Madreans down to Arcadia Hospital.

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  20. When is Bankruptcy and Annexing the town back for debate?

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  21. If Bart Doyle is involved in any capacity,that's indication enough that something illegal is happening.

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    1. 9:25, Don’t know if it’s illegal, but beware if Bart is involved in any capacity!

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  22. It seems while we become preoccupied with the library we are kept unaware of other things going on around town. Like Mr. Gonzalez being unable to provide an accurate building permit list. Yet the tear downs continue. So be vigilant about the things they don’t want to tell you. As for the library...the yokels who felt the library should have their way should be bombasted with e-mails. Even if they don’t read them. Just put “displeasure with your view on the library” in the subject line. Do it everyday. Do the same with the library board. Over and over ad nauseum. 14 mil would go along way to help the water pipes. I also understand the “friends” have a mil. In their bank account. They could’ve made many of the needed fixes with that money. I will no longer support any of their fund raisers. I will no longer give my books to them. I will support nothing they have to do with. Enough said.

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    1. That's an excellent idea. We also need to email Arizmendi and Delmar showing our support for their conservatism and encourage them to hold strong against the other three. They both need to hold out to prevent the parcel tax from even getting on the ballot.

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    2. Watching JJ&G attempt to bum rush Denise was interesting. She stopped them cold.

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  23. Someone from the Friends of the Library spoke up and one of the things she did say was that the friends respond to request of the board and repair has not been asked.

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  24. John Capoccia sports a goatee just like his mentor, Josh Moran; both support taking all our money.

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  25. The people pushing for the supposed $9 million dollar Library are a small group who get way more attention from City Hall than they deserve.

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    1. It's the city tradition.

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    2. A couple of years back we used to call them the "special people." They still are.

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  26. It’s no wonder people don’t want to get involved in the city. Takes way too much time and energy. Not to mention the city never listens to what you want.

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  27. No new taxes. Make the Trustees pay for it or they can pound sand.

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  28. Thats because that "small group"are either employed by the city or were past city employee's now serving on commissions, anyone's guess as to how the new City Manager will align himself.

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    1. No guess at all. The new city manager will align with the money.

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    2. Of whom are you referring to? Please name these commissioners!

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    3. Not the grammar lady, but I can't resist:
      To whom are you referring, or, more awkwardly,
      Of whom are you referring, but not
      Of whom are you referring to.

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  29. Recall the embezzlement coming from City Hall, now those same individuals are once again in the picture.

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  30. When the Library Board members hire out to have signatures gathered for placing a Parcel Tax on ballot, a counter group of concerned citizens should be hiring out to gather enough signatures for a recall of the three Councilmember's, homeowner's will have a choice in which petitions to sign when presenters show up on the same doorstep.

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  31. make our library a branch of the pasadena library, PUSD runs our schools, why not have pasadena run and pay for the library?

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  32. Endless Tax and Spend Liberals. Why this city and state are dying economically, we need to go back to sane policy and some common sense.

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  33. Regarding 2002 Agenda information: WOW, what goes around in 2002, comes around in 2018! Full circle, and the same guys are STILL pushing their agenda. AMAZING!

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    1. There are still some things they haven't wrecked yet.

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    2. It is so frustrating that these elites think that they know what’s best for us. They take a survey, then proceed to ignor it and move ahead with a plan for a new library. The City’s in big debt and these jokers want more debt. Bet they don’t run their own homes like that!

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  34. I am not sure Capoccia looks like Trotsky. I'd say he is much closer to Custer.

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  35. All you moronic Dump minions ok with your Savoirs ridiculous comments lately?
    Oh, I’m sorry, I realize all that matters is your 401k.

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  36. Is that John alias Custer at Bull Run?
    Or little BS john on council?
    Two Johns, one Gene, three flushes.
    Oh, just the same old BS.

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  37. Of which moronic ridiculous comments are you referring?
    The Don is just fine, in fact he's sick (translation for the old whiner 5:06pm - Sick = Fabulous, stupendous, marvelous, # 1, Numero Uno, etc).
    Tell it like it is baby, keep it real.
    Prez Trump in 2020 - four more years.

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    1. 6:47, out of elementary school for the summer and you’re learning how to blog ? Your dad let people grab your mummy like Trump does ?

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