Thursday, July 26, 2018

Experts Conclude That Russian Attack Won The Election For Trump

Mod: Interesting article from the news site Politicus USA. What it describes here probably explains why Trump and his supporters are so squishy soft on the collusion issue. The Russians did something that they were incapable of doing since back in the days of George W. Bush. That is, actually win an American Presidential election. 

Experts Conclude That Russian Attack Won The Election For Trump (PoliticusUSA link): Outside experts have concluded that the Russian attack on the 2016 election did enough damage to swing 80,000 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, which put Trump in the White House.

In his latest column for The Washington Post, Max Boot wrote:

While the intelligence agencies are silent on the impact of Russia’s attack, outside experts who have examined the Kremlin campaign — which included stealing and sharing Democratic Party emails, spreading propaganda online and hacking state voter rolls — have concluded that it did affect an extremely close election decided by fewer than 80,000 votes in three states. Clint Watts, a former FBI agent, writes in his recent book, “Messing with the Enemy,” that “Russia absolutely influenced the U.S. presidential election,” especially in Michigan and Wisconsin, where Trump’s winning margin was less than 1 percent in each state.

The numbers are staggering. Russian pro-Trump/anti-Clinton propaganda reached 126 million people on Facebook alone, which is roughly the same number as the number of votes cast for Clinton and Trump. Russian bots reached 1.4 million Twitter users with their disinformation, and 39 states had their voting systems hacked in what experts believed what a Russian effort to get data that they could use to target voters in their attack.

Trump is not a legitimate president

It is simple math. Trump lost the popular vote but won an election by 80,000 votes in three states. The Russians micro-targeted voters in those states. They only needed a small fraction of voters to fall for their efforts in order to be successful. The numbers were in Putin’s favor. He could fail 90% of the time, and still swing the election for Trump.

The conclusion is that Trump wouldn’t have won without the Russians. Trump owes Putin big, which is why he is constantly kissing the ring of America’s biggest enemy.

Trump isn’t legit. The majority of Americans felt it, believed it, and the numbers show that it is true.

Mod: The sad irony being Vladimir Putin is the most effective political operative the American radical right has. Which probably explains why they have sold out to an American enemy.

Half Of U.S. Voters Say Russians Have Something On Trump (Quinnipiac Poll link): American voters believe 51 - 35 percent "that the Russian government has compromising information about President Trump," according to a Quinnipiac University National Poll released today.

Republicans don't believe 70 - 18 percent there is compromising information, the only listed party, gender, education, age or racial group which does not believe it, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University National Poll finds. Two other groups are divided: 44 percent of white voters with no college degree believe the Russians have something and 43 percent don't believe it; 42 percent of white men believe it and 43 percent don't believe it.

The Helsinki summit between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin was a failure for the U.S., voters say 52 - 27 percent. The summit was a success for Russia, voters say 73 - 8 percent.

Trump was not acting in the best interest of the U.S., voters say 54 - 41 percent.

"Whether it is with love or not, President Donald Trump's relationship with Russia has delivered a small blow to his already poor standing with the American people," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

"Following his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, President Trump's job approval is back below 40 percent again.

"The president gets a split 49 - 47 percent score on the economy, but he receives negative reviews on his handling of a bevy of international problems and especially his relationship with Russia."

President Trump should defend all of America's NATO allies, American voters say 78 - 16 percent.

A total of 68 percent of American voters are "very concerned" or "somewhat concerned" about President Trump's relationship with Russia, while 32 percent are "not so concerned" or "not concerned at all."

Mod: It looks like people have begun to figure it out.


'Trump 2020' campaign banners are being proudly produced in . . . China? (Marketwatch link):    Manufacturers are already hard at work churning out banners for President Donald Trump’s 2020 re-election campaign — in China.

According to a Reuters report Wednesday, China’s Jiahao Flag Co. has produced more than 90,000 “Trump 2020: Keep America Great!” banners and flags since March, and the factory has ramped up production before Trump’s threatened tariffs against all Chinese-made goods kick on.

The banners and flags cost about $1 each to make, Reuters said, and a factory manager said Trump’s campaign suppliers appear to be trying to get their orders in before potential tariffs cause the price to rise.

The manager told Reuters that the factory has been making Trump banners ever since the days of “Make America Great Again.”

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77 comments:

  1. The Devil took a dump and gave us Trump.

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  2. Trump and his supporters need to be separated from their families and locked up in cages.

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  3. The entire Russian involvement would never have happened and would have been dealt with swiftly if the old guard was here today. Why is our system not protecting America now?

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    1. They're on the Russian payroll. Like Trump.

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    2. 7:36, they're on the NRA payroll, which is on the Russian payroll. Just look at the donations to Republicans.

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  4. The News is Real, the President is Fake.

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  5. Did the Russians make Hillary not campaign in Wisconsin and Michigan?

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    1. What does it matter? Why are you making excuses for the enemy nation that attacked America? Obviously you are no patriot.

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  6. Treason is the Reason Impeach

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  7. Make Facts Matter Again.

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  8. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

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  9. Your not a christian if you think Trump is great.

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  10. Trump is Americas Trojan horse.

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  11. Crystal Presley: "Whoever could have guessed that a reality TV star with no government experience, 6 bankruptcies, 5 kids from 3 marriages, 11 charges of sexual assault, and 4,000+ lawsuits would turn out this bad?"

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  12. Why is this ignoramus still is office?

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    1. Why do so many people in this country not see or care about what seems excruciatingly obvious?

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  13. Take the trash out on trash day and don't forget Trump.

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  14. Would it be ok to burn a Chinese manufactured Trump flag?

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    1. Only if you use gasoline.

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    2. or a russian mother of all nuclear bombs

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  15. Russia was our ally in WWII in defeating the Nazis. And, contrary to what most Americans are taught, it was Russia that truly won that war in Europe, having lost over 20 million people to the war and having been responsible for 80 percent of the Allies’ Nazi kills.

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    1. Thanks comrade.

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    2. That’s true. Russia did bear the brunt of the burden defeating Germany. The Nazi’s invaded Russia in June 1941 and the US let Russia bleed for three full years before landing in on the mainland in June 1944.

      But that irrelevant to the fact that they are now not allied to right wing elitists like the trump swamp.

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    3. That is true and then there was the Korean War. Iron curtain. Cold War. Vietnam. And US foreign policy was to shore up any petty dictator as long as they were avowedly antiComunistic. Support for the Taliban against Russia. OMG.

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    4. Your hatred of American is noted.

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    5. And remember what Trump said, that some neo Nazis are "fine people."

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    6. Bearing the brunt of a war and losing & killing the most soldiers is not synonomous with winning a war.

      If the US had not engaged in Europe, Russia, at the very best, would have had a stalemate with Germany, which would have focused its efforts on the Eastern Front.

      It certainly wasn’t Russia conducting the strategic bombing raids that destroyed German industry and crushed the German will to fight. That’s what ultimately won the war. And let’s not forget that through Lend-Lease, the US supplied much, in many categories most, of Russia’s materiel support.

      In the end, Comrade, everyone knew that Russia was not our friend, but was only allied with the US for dealing with a common enemy.

      And since 1945, Russians have been attempting to destabilize the US. Indeed, Russians are attacking the US with the help of Trump and the GOP as you read this.

      So please spare us the “we’re allies” BS.

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    7. This whole theme about Russia being for peace and harmony is hilarious. Are they wearing flowers in their hair?

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  16. In addition, while many of us might not like the messenger, Donald Trump was correct when, asked about Putin being a killer, he suggested that the U.S. has been less than innocent in this respect. Indeed, though many were horrified by such a moment of candor by a U.S. President, Trump was engaging in gross understatement.It is not seriously in question, as John Coatsworth writes in the recently published Cambridge University History of the Cold War, that from 1960 to “the Soviet collapse in 1990, the numbers of political prisoners, torture victims, and executions of nonviolent political dissenters in Latin America vastly exceeded those in the Soviet Union and its East European satellites.” Among the executed were many religious martyrs, and there were mass slaughters as well, consistently supported or initiated by Washington.

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    1. Equating the United States with the barbarism in Russia is another form of lying. Not surprised Trump supporters are using this tactic.

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    2. That’s true. It’s clear that Trump is from the same swamp. He hoodwinked the people he lied to on the campaign trail. I regret voting for him.

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    3. 8:34, and everyone else who voted for Trump - make up for it by helping get Dana Rohrbacher (Orange County) and Steve Knight (Lancaster/Palmdale) out of Congress, and a Democrat in. Regardless of whether you consider yourself Republican, Democrat, or Decline to State, we've got to get rid of the Republican majority in Congress. They are doing nothing to stem the idiocy of this President. Remember, a few months ago Bob Corker said "Someone missed his daycare assignment in the White House," when Trump did another incredibly stupid thing and tweeted about it. Of course, Corker isn't running again.

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  17. and what about the millions killed by the U.S. in Indochina during its shameful war on Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia, and Reagan’s support of apartheid South Africa’s rampage through Southern Africa which resulted in the deaths of 1.5 million people.

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    1. Yes comrade. Russia good, USA bad.

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    2. This is also true- regan, trump and Putin all represent the same swamp

      Exploiting the masses for their own elite corruption

      Redefeat Trump in 2020!

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    3. Russian whataboutism

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  18. And, what about today? While many are up in arms about Russia’s annexation of the Crimea (though this was done with the approval of the majority of Crimeans who are happy to be returned to Russia) as well as Russia’s intervention in the war in Syria, these actions pale in comparison to the U.S.’s own intervention in Syria, its recent destruction of Libya, its destruction of Iraq and Afghanistan, its continued support for the Saudi rape of Yemen and the U.S.’s support for the pillaging of The Democratic Republic of the Congo which has cost the lives of around 6 million innocents.

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    1. What can you possibly say about Americans who willingly promote Russian state propaganda?

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  19. It is these U.S. wars, along with the U.S.’s over 800 military bases in more than 70 countries (Russia has bases in only one country (Syria) outside the former Soviet Union) which has led to the U.S. rightly being viewed in a poll of people in 65 countries as by far the greatest threat to world peace.

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    1. This is true- and trump is making it worse.

      We need a true statesman like obama again. Only president with a degree in international diplomacy. A calm steady hard that improved america’s Stature through treaties and trade


      Redefeat trump in 2020

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  20. Meanwhile, at the U.S.’s urging, and despite its promises to Russia in return for the Soviet Union relinquishing any hold over Eastern Europe, NATO now has troops up to the Russian border and the U.S. has just sold extended-range missiles to Poland which will surely be pointed at Russia. Russia is not similarly postured along the U.S.’s boundaries, and it is unthinkable that it ever would be

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    1. Aww. 8:04 is having a sad about the big mean USA.

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    2. 8:04 - The Cuban missile crisis never happened, right?

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    3. Russia does not need to be physically poised at our boundaries. It already has control through a traitorous administration.

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  21. Meanwhile, at the U.S.’s urging, and despite its promises to Russia in return for the Soviet Union relinquishing any hold over Eastern Europe, NATO now has troops up to the Russian border and the U.S. has just sold extended-range missiles to Poland which will surely be pointed at Russia. Russia is not similarly postured along the U.S.’s boundaries, and it is unthinkable that it ever would be

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    1. If you are going to cut and paste comments, at least be careful enough to to post the same thing twice.

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  22. In other words, it is Russia which should be afraid of us, and not the other way around. And, President Trump’s expressed desire to stop antagonizing Russia and to work with it in defeating ISIS in places like Syria should be welcomed as eminently reasonable and indeed necessary to avoid a possible nuclear confrontation. This should also be welcome by an American public whose resources have been drained by the greatest military-spending spree by far on the planet.

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    1. Trump wants to work with Russia because they have dirty pictures of him. That and they have put a lot of money in his pockets over the years.

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  23. Certainly, liberals, who at least once stood for peace and for greater social spending, should be in the lead in cheering such overtures instead of drumming up anti-Russian hatred which can only lead to more war and more impoverishment of our society

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    1. The Tea Party surrender monkeys have become the new Jane Fonda.

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  24. News Flash, America has a 'Fake President' the need to deport these fake Americans ASAP - Deport them on sight as per the 'Wanted Poster' says deport back to their communist country of origin. Keep America Clean 2018..

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    1. True. Traitors need to be sent to Guantanamo.

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  25. Trump's focus is based on racial resentment. It drives his knucklehead followers wild.

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    1. Just like Nixon

      Another nasty right wing extremist

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  26. Defiantly something in the drinking water for posters on the Tattler!
    Keep it up, extremly entertaining.
    Have a good Day.

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    1. Your poor grammar entertains me.

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    2. Trolls from faraway places. Poor wretches.

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  27. OMG, i am so confused, i will vote for Donald J Trump again in 2020.

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    1. It will have to be a write in vote, OMG. Persons convicted and imprisoned for Federal crimes cannot appear on the ballot, OMG.

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    2. OMG you ARE confused! I'm surprised you knew how to make it to the polling place.

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    3. Dumb person alert.

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  28. Muller continues to grasp for a paycheck for himself and his buddies.
    Now he is loojing at Trump's Tweets as part of his obstruction investigation.
    Time to tell Muller, put up or shut up.

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    1. Plenty of indictments and guilty pleas so far. I say let things play out.

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    2. Hahah
      You’re a cowards

      So entertaining to watch when cowards get desperate

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    3. "You're a cowards."

      You're an illiterate.

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  29. Collusion, where's the collusion?
    Russia, hello Russia are you colluding?

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    1. I see trump is still grabbing you by the pussy.

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  30. No drama Obama, wasn't he born in Kenya, that's what Podesta and Hillary Rodham Clinton told us.

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    1. There you go, blaming the black guy.

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  31. That big Nothing Burger of the Mueller “investigation” is really working. Oops, never mind.

    Oh well he can keep inviting Russians that will never see trial.

    Trump Derangement Syndrome continues. If Trump is not your President, please go to where your President is.

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    1. Sure, kid. Sure.

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    2. Lol - a ‘nothing burger’ filled with trump steak!

      Topped with swamp water!

      And strippers!

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    3. “It’s only about sex.”
      ~Dems about Bill Clinton
      Hypocrite.

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    4. Good to know Trump fools are willing top concede that Donald Trump is as bad as Bill Clinton. When do the impeachment proceedings begin?

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  32. Dotard Kakistocracy

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  33. Trolls get trumped again!!

    President Donald Trump was told about the meeting his son held with Russian intelligence to discuss getting “dirt” on Hillary Clinton, former personal attorney Michael Cohen says according to CNN.

    Cohen’s claim contradicts sworn statements that Donald Trump Jr. gave to Congress, in which he stated that he would not waste his father’s time by sharing details of the meeting.

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  34. No bad feelings but this fake-american can go NOW before Americans and the world has to see his ugly face one more time - it's time America give an Enema to teh White House and expel this Communist stool.

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