Tuesday, October 9, 2018

It should be another really awful Sierra Madre City Council meeting tonight

Why beat around the bush? Tonight's meeting will be an opaque and deceptive mess designed to obscure some true City Hall nonsense, while hiding actual intents that most Sierra Madreans would reject should they ever be told. We might as well be back in the John Buchanan and Elaine Aguilar days. Except we're not. It is much worse.

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The thing is that the City of Sierra Madre, when it casually capitulated and sold you out to the likes of One Carter developer CETT, agreed to a project that the city is not capable of handling. It is very large, and far too much work for them to deal with and still be able to take three day weekends. The time requirements on applications alone make the job impossible for so wee a planning department on a limited time budget.

So they must have always known they would have to outsource it all, and now they are. But try and find any admission of that in this report. You won't. That would be a little too transparent. So instead you get vapid jargon like "Contract Planning Services for Entitlement Processing."

Check out the agenda report and see how much this is going to cost you. I am not going to do everything for you. But while doing that also search your feelings and ask yourself how comforted you are to know that so sensitive a project is now going to be largely handled by an outside third party outfit whose main priority will be how to get this work done and still turn a profit.

It is one thing to be completely sold out by a City Council that claimed when running for office that it would fight such predatory development. It ought to be quite another discovering that you are now having to pay for it.

Also under consideration this evening is this bit of callow timorousness.

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The driving force behind the need to "do something about Kersting Court" is the perceived legal requirement to remove any seasonal religious displays (read: Christmas) from government property. The city fears lawsuits from the usual nasty jerks. This is part of a much larger issue, and hardly limited to just Sierra Madre. It has been discussed here before and I won't be doing that again today.

But the City Council will once again refuse to share that information with you. They don't think you can handle it in a way that is convenient for them, and frankly they prefer not to use that much energy at meetings. Instead you will get condescending nonsense like this:


Were you aware that there is a move in town to get rid of the flag pole? Is there a "war on the flag pole?" You probably weren't in the know about this, most likely because such a thing isn't happening.

However, what this should inform you of is there will no longer be any room for traditional seasonal religious displays at Christmas time. Instead Kersting Court will now be filled with reverential "Native Drought Landscaping," which you will not be allowed to walk on.

Kersting Court will become a quasi-sacred plant museum designed a lot like the fussy shrubbery in front of City Hall. Look, but do not touch. Keep your kids under strict control, and a stout leash on Fido. Dispose of your Starbucks cups properly.

Again, the City Council will prefer not to discuss any of that with you. It is a real issue, and as is almost always the case with the Fab 5, they don't do reality. At least not for the likes of you.

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84 comments:

  1. Will the native drought plants have prickers on them?

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  2. Who needs religious worshipping in a shared public square? There’s several churches just blocks away. And your own front yards.

    Plants provide plenty opportunity for contemplation.

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    1. There are plants nearby as well. Go contemplate them someplace else.

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    2. I do. As long as there’s no creepy Jesus nonsense I don’t care.

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  3. Kersting Court is one of the city’s parks. Has the Community Services Commission actually approved this awful hair-brained idea? We already have one weed patch park. We don’t need one in the middle of town. How much is this going to cost? Why does the park need to be changed?

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  4. Nature is my temple.

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    1. You need to stop smoking it.

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    2. Ok, as long as you lay off the frankincense.

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  5. Predatory development? That’s rich. Just so we are clear, that property was a residential development. It had a house on it and some other structures. It was also zoned and subdevided for further houses. Rules were set in place for its development. So if someone buys the property and follows the rules, how is that “predatory development”. Obviously because you don’t want any development there. There is no difference between a paid employee and a contracted employee who will be handling this or any project. Our building official, plan check and engineering department has and is contracted. If anything contracted departments are harder to work with because they are far more strict. However, they follow the rules, not the emotions of the angry few. You have written many pandering “articles” but this one shows a great bit much of illogical baiting and callous hyperbole.
    Oh you weren’t done? Yes apparently Christmas is canceled by the council according to you. Any other hot button topic you wish to outlay?

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    1. One Carter was zoned residential by the same nitwit city council that gave it away to a developer who didn't have the financial wherewithal to build anything there. Not coincidentally, some of these same fools are now behind the move to destroy the Library and institute a parcel tax. A twenty year reign of destruction. Think how dangerous you would be if you actually knew something.

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    2. Don't kid yourselves, folks. It's quite apparent when a professionally worded pro-building rant such as 6:46's response that the builders have hired PR representatives. Get involved or get steamrolled...No one but a pro is that coherent at 6:46 AM. Maybe they have the talking points in a cut and paste file?

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  6. Sierra Madrea has it's very own version of the 'liars club' meeting held in it's city council chambers, this should be syndicated very soon? Oh you do not need to since each city has been over taken by developers anyway.

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  7. With runnable space disappearing on the alter of sustainable landscape, is it any wonder the kids in this town are fat?

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    1. They’re spending too much time at mother moo’s

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  8. 6:46, good morning, Sunshine!

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  9. So 6:46am you are admitting to Sierra Madre Planning Department NOT "FOLLOWING THE RULES". Do you think the citizens of this town don't already know that.
    It is because of people like yourself that this town is being plowed under.
    Yes Christmas is under attack by you and your buds that stole the ARTS IN PUBLIC SPACES money for your DROUGHT TOLERANT PLANTINGS to represent the town square, the entrance of Sierra Madre, better chop down the Wisteria Vine that's a major water waster, don't display the Kiosk with that water guzzler you will be misrepresenting the town.

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  10. Next the council will whine about CalPERS obligations not being met and increase the tax percentage since the Sunset Clause was removed by this mayor and her bunch of lazy councilpersons not willing to do the work of fighting against Sacramento.

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  11. Why not hire more City Employees the people in town have the money to keep paying for more administrative abuse.

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  12. Most the Vets are buried, no need for the Flag and Pot is protected under religion so why not set up shop in the middle of town? The stink weed meets the criteria for drought tolerant plantings.

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  13. It's a pity the hillsides were not protected better.

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    1. There are protections in place but they don't mean anything without enforcement.

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  14. The Dradel in Kersting Court was vandalized last year next the baby Jesus Christ will be sacrificed in the same manner, take the easy street of following legal requirements of Socialism.

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    1. Do you have a citation for the "legal requirements of Socialism." (Incidentally, wasn't he already sacrificed for your sins?)

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    2. Christ was a socialist.

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    3. Actually, no he wasn’t. Nice try, though.

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  15. That's rich! Sierra Madre continues to be under drought watch and no new construction that does not already have water lines can take place.
    But the Planning Department is over worked!
    P L E A S E STOP THE INSANITY.

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    1. The Carter mess is a big project. You'll see that part of the hillsides covered with many big houses, nothing under 3,000 square feet. The city staff cannot get the applications turned around in time for the state requirements that the development lobby got in place.

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  16. 6:46am makes a valid point. Sierra Madre has contracted out the majority of the city functions that are usually operated through City Hall so why not annex the time seems right.
    Which neighboring city will take on Sierra Madre's debt?
    Try telling us that any bond measure won't come along with interest rates that rise or a parcel tax for your saving grace and answer, try that on your dog for the response you Councilmembers seek.

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  17. Sierra Madre should become a contract city, meaning every position is contracted out to save on CalPERS murderous pension costs.

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    1. Bring in LASD. They did fine here a few years ago.

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  18. If Kersting Court is made Historical will it then be preserved? Would the Flag and Creche remain?

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    1. The flag pole seems to be protected. The Christmas crèche will be replaced with aloe plants.

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    2. Forget the crèche and bring back the trolley.

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  19. Funny how those Pepper Trees have survived since the town was founded but they won't survive this city council.

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    1. They haven’t survived—- most got blown over in the 2011 windstorm

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  20. Welcome to Sierra Madre a town without Religion.

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    1. Your religion should be inside you not forced upon you by government. Or by other citizens trying to control you.

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    2. There’s plenty of steeples on the city’s horizon. Do some soul searching please.

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  21. CalPERS is protected under the State Employees, Police and Fire Unions, Jerry Brown followed thru on his election promises to them.

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  22. No manger in Kersting Court unless we include a large colander on (in?) which the the Flying Spaghetti Monster may land and embrace all people of good will with His Noodly Appendages this holiday season.

    Oh yeah, and a Festivus Pole.

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  23. The same nasty jerks wanting to remove Christmas from government property are the same nasty jerks demanding more tax money for Calpers.

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    1. Who are they?

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    2. Go to tonight's city council meeting and look forward.

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  24. This City Council does not listen to the public, they wanted their positions only to move forward their own agendas of personal gain.

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  25. Sierra Madre is headed into bankruptcy and the voters can blame themselves.

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    1. As to opposed to overspending? They got a permanent 10% UUT and pissed it all away.

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  26. Hey 6:46AM the Carter One property has a house already on the property and those other buildings are protected by the settlement agreement, are you saying something has legally changed?

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  27. Hey 6:46AM the Carter One property has a house already on the property and those other buildings are protected by the settlement agreement, are you saying something has legally changed?

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  28. Egads, so now the council won't have the Planning Director sign off on any projects on Carter One?
    What could possibly go wrong!

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  29. Nikki Haley resigns as U.N. Ambassador.
    She had discussed her plans months ago with the President.
    She said her future plans do not include running for President in 2020.

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    1. Yet another trump failure

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    2. womp womp

      https://t.co/oFXcYT8XGq

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  30. It seems obvious to me that the city is now run by the city attorney. Decisions are being made with legal needs in mind only. And the secrecy and obfuscation? Very lawyerly. Why do we even need a city council?

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    1. The city attorney and the city manager are the architects. The council are the contractors.

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  31. What did you mean by asking "legal requirements" 8:22am of Socialism?
    Health,Safety and Welfare cover a employer's "legal requirements", but in a Socialist State, you would not be allowed to own a business; Socialism, everything is owned by all ! It is a real question of who pays... and yes that is a moral question for you.
    As for Christ dying for the sins of Mankind, yes if you are a Christian.

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    1. If Christ died for all mankind he didn’t do a very good job. This place is a wreck, while his dad just sits by and watches.

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    2. Did someone steal your box of donuts?

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    3. 10:16. Little knowledge of socialism. Littlke knowledge of your own religion. What else don’t you know?

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  32. Most trees in town got blown over in the Hurricane force winds in 2011 and not all trees were over 200 years old.
    Re plant the Historic Pepper Trees in Kersting Court.

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  33. Sunshine 9:42am do you ever have any positive experiences in your life? UN Ambassador Niki Hailey gave her resignation letter to President Trump six months ago. She said that she believes in term limits and she has served as Governor for six years and UN rep for two, time for a break, and she will campaign for President Trump in 2020.

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    1. I don't believe anything I hear coming out of the Trump administration. I think there are very good reasons for that.

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    2. nice try

      I heard there’s a pending ethics probe

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    3. Good call, 11:02.

      Nikki Haley's resignation comes one day after an ethics watchdog requested an investigation into her acceptance of free flights on private jets.

      https://t.co/oFXcYT8XGq

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    4. Two safe assumptions when discussing someone from the Trump admin:
      1) They're lying most of the time.
      2) They're corrupt.

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    5. The Fat Orange is on the news right now blabbing about how Ivanka would be an excellent choice to replace Free Flights Haley.

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  34. Televised commercials paid for by the Police and Fire Unions are recommending a Vote No on Prop 6, they go on to say the infrastructure will suffering if you vote Yes.
    The Union does NOT say that the NO vote will guarantee more money in their CALPERS ACCOUNTS.
    Recind the Gas Tax a Yes vote will make the difference.

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  35. The residents are paying for a consultant to turn that project into a money maker for the city. Think of it as an investment.

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  36. 6:46am who in their right mind would have subdivided those lots the size of postage stamps? Wasn't the LLC Downtown investment club formed around the same time of Carter One? Who were on City Council and what "deals" were made?
    The grading of Carter One was never approved by the Planning Department and now City Council wants to relinquish all City control and turn the parcels over to developers, what a sham.

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    1. It's a disaster, to be sure.

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    2. Well the canyon has postage-stamp sized lots and That mostly works

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    3. Not a legitimate comparison - the canyon has small houses on those small lots, with a few glaring exceptions.

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  37. How do you explain the "free lunches" ths5t the IN enjoys daily 12:02pm, very unethical.

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  38. Christ was a Jew.

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    1. Explains the aversion some in town have to Christmas displays.

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    2. Thanks for the reminder

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  39. How many expensive questioners did this council send out to homeowner's asking about the future of the Library and what ever became of that? A big fat zero.

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    1. I thought the results were the the majority said "Do not move the library."

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  40. Good that no one knows you 1:55pm !!!

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  41. 1:55pm fresh off the boat from Venzuela?

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  42. No 3:58. I’m just not a moron who believes that socialism doesn’t exist in this country or a fool who believes we can do without it.

    Here’s a partial list. Since you’re no doubt a “self-made” capitalist and rugged individualist, you will henceforth refuse to use or benefit from anything on the list. If you don’t refuse to eschew all of those things, well then you’re a closeted socialist and hypocrite.

    https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2012/3/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America

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  43. Ha, 75 ways of what is wrong with that list, let us count the ways... ready begin...

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    1. Glad to hear you’re giving up your socialism security checks (if you ever worked) and won’t be using roads, telecommunications, water and power grids, financial markets, police/fire, and etc.

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  44. Protect yo cheche!

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