Tuesday, April 23, 2019

Speaker Pelosi Urges Caution on Impeachment as Some Democrats Begin to Push

Mod: Personally I think Donald should be hauled out the White House and thrown in a Washington DC holding pen with the rest of the common criminals, but that is just my opinion. And you know what those are usually worth. Unfortunately the world is a far more politically complex place.

Pelosi Urges Caution on Impeachment as Some Democrats Begin to Push (The New York Times link): Speaker Nancy Pelosi, confronting a Democratic divide over the findings of the special counsel, urged her caucus on Monday to hold off impeaching President Trump for now, even as she denounced the “highly unethical and unscrupulous behavior” that she said had dishonored his office.


Her comments, outlined in a letter to House Democrats on Monday and a subsequent conference call with them, seemed designed to increase support for the investigations already begun, rather than impeachment. But the conference call exposed the persistent divisions that Ms. Pelosi is trying to bridge, as several Democrats questioned the cost of not beginning the impeachment of Donald J. Trump.

The release last week of the report by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, threw to Congress the fate of his investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and Mr. Trump’s efforts to interfere with it. Some House Democrats are convinced that impeachment proceedings would be doomed to fall short of removal from office and therefore would only help the president politically. Others argue that failing to impeach would effectively signal to this president and his successors that serious misdeeds will be tolerated by a legislative branch fearful of political consequence.

Ms. Pelosi tried to convince her colleagues that they have tools to hold Mr. Trump to account without impeaching him. Underscoring Ms. Pelosi’s approach, the Democrat-led Judiciary Committee announced as the call began that it had subpoenaed Donald F. McGahn II, the former White House counsel and one of the central figures of Mr. Mueller’s report, to appear at a public hearing in late May. The hearing, the committee’s chairman told colleagues, would be the first in a series of public sessions showcasing possible obstruction of justice, abuses of power and corruption in the Trump administration.

Representatives Suzanne Bonamici of Oregon and Steve Cohen of Tennessee raised another possibility: voting to censure the president, the people on the call said.

“We have to save our democracy. This isn’t about Democrats or Republicans. It’s about saving our democracy,” Ms. Pelosi told the 172 members who participated in the 87-minute conference call, keeping the possibility of impeachment alive. “If it is what we need to do to honor our responsibility to the Constitution — if that’s the place the facts take us, that’s the place we have to go.”

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47 comments:

  1. There really is no down-side to impeaching the Fat Fraud. The House's job is law enforcement. The Senate is judge and jury. The House must be seen to be upholding their Constitutional duty and their oaths of office. If the Senate chooses to put party over country it will be in the full floodlights of open, public hearings. Let the people see the criminals at work.

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    1. Downside is mobilizing the already radicalized right wing, then trump gets in again.

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    2. There isn't enough of them. They're dying off.

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  2. To be honest I really think she is right but since this fool always like to spit out nothing but b.s. he is digging his own burial.

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  3. Just because they're not calling the investigations "impeachment proceedings" doesn't mean that's not exactly what they are.

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    1. Impeach Barr. Is there enough evidence to impeach Barr while trump investigations are ongoing?

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    2. Has anyone ever checked Faux News to determine if they use any subliminal messaging to brainwash their viewers? I just read somewhere else that Trump watches Faux religiously like he was addicted.

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    3. Sorry 6:50, but you're using flawed logic: the brainless cannot be brainwashed.

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    4. 6:50 was trying to be kind.

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  4. Trump is an Internet troll.

    Trump unleashes on the media in morning tweetstorm
    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/23/trump-media-tweets-1287310

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  5. In latest Politico/Morning Consult poll, Trump's approval drops to 39 percent.

    https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/trump-approval-hits-all-time-low-pelosi-uses-different-i-word-1503291459897?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

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  6. Love it when the Dims spin!
    Typical of got nothing and do nothing politics; 2020 here we come MAGA.

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    1. I think we all know what you spin on.

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    2. You dumbf*ck - I bet even in 2050 you'll still be trying to "MAGA" - you my friend are too stooped to see that we are the frog that is mostly boiled at this point. hmph.

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  7. Mueller Report Confirms Almost Everything The Media Said Was True

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv1CNQY07M0

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  8. Along with Roger Stone and other perverts who are dogs in heat supporter's of that all time perv (djt) and now we know what his base does with their spare time after a hard day of racists marches and other despicable acts against America.
    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/smut-jesusland-bible-belt-states-biggest-consumers-online-adult-content/

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  9. Giggles, come on. The media is no more, this is true. The same type of covert yellow journalism was used in Wirld War II, but the populace was not as gullible as the next generation that has been produced.
    True the House enforces laws, and the Senate judges; but not under these political hacks of No Trumpers.
    The cleaning of the swamp and identifying of swamp things has been time consuming, but the battle has only begun.
    Can't fight the truth.
    Yes, lock up the dastardly Dems and pack up their web of lies that they have fed to this country for years; send them down the river.

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    1. Ivan, how many criminal charges and conviction of Trump's inner swamp have there been?

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    2. If the media is no more, why does Trump constantly scream about it?

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    3. Maybe he hallucinates.

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  10. Where are the Democrats that uttered; Barrack you are clean and articulate! Most have scrambled to find a larger rock to hide under now that they are exposed as the bad malfunctions of why this government is broken.

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    1. The Obama administration saw no indictments or convictions. Trump’s a boatload.

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    2. If it wasn’t for lame “whatabouts” Trumplets wouldn’t have anything to say at all.

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    3. Lol, ‘articulate’... you can’t even spell his name correctly.

      Dumb troll!

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  11. The Democrats should hold hearing after hearing after hearing until the American public demands removal of the entire Trump Criminal Syndicate from government.

    Though his words may cause him to retreat to his fainting sofa today, Republican Lindsey Graham's prescient standard must be followed:

    "You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic, if this body (Congress) determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role. Because impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office."

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  12. Speaking of Republican perverts or converts, just when you thought all the Boy Scout perverts had been caught, Catholics, LDS an Baptists another pervert crew have been found.
    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Sex-Abuse-Boy-Scouts-of-America-Lawsuits-BSA-508934291.html

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  13. Let those bleeding heart supporter's think this one over, because the investigations will not stop until this stinky (djt) dingle berry is gone from office along with his banished cohorts in crime. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440160-george-conway-case-for-trumps-impeachment-better-than-nixons

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    1. They keep talking about the Senate not having enough votes to impeach -- well that was the case with Bill Clinton and the House still voted for impeachment. It is forever in Clinton's historic record that he lied to the Grand Jury and was impeached by the House. I think the same should be the case for trump -- They should do the investigation, get people to testify before the House and then take a vote in the House to impeach trump, regardless of the Senate.

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  14. How very Jussie Smollett of you 8:41!

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  15. Under the (djt) dictatorship and his irresponsible minions it is a crime to be legally correct, in front of a moron who claims everything under the sun or moon as being his domain of what is truth and what is a lie? Keep moving on we do not allow heads to be stuck in a bucket of sand (bullsh-t) 9:03 I mean.

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  16. I think Nancy Pelosi is brilliant. Democrats can't appear as if they already think the man is guilty until he is proven to be guilty in hearings in the House for high crimes and misdemeanors. So, we need to get people to come before the house and testify so that the guilt of this man becomes very obvious to the public. At that point a vote can be taken -- doing so right now would make it appear too political and not like we went through the proper steps.

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    1. Yes, Caution! We could wind up with Pence, the Same People in the Cabinet and all leadership positions. What would we have accomplished? Nothing but Trading one very Evil Leader for another. Stephen Miller, Mitch McConnell would still be there. Pence is supported and backed by the Same Dark Money, very wealthy American men who helped put trump in Our WH. All of those he is deregulating EPA Restrictions, drilling, exploring on protected land, animal protection from extinction for. Think! Trump is Not Smart enough to know to do these things. It’s all about the Money he is getting to do them for more profits.

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  17. Nancy Pelosi is dead set against impeaching Trump, She was also dead set against impeaching George W. Bush for starting a war based on a lie. A war that has ruined countless lives, cost billions of dollars, and will never end. Nancy Pelosi says Trump is "not worth it". It is not Nancy Pelosi's job to determine whether Trump is worth it or not, if Trump committed an impeachable offense, (which he repeatedly has), it is her job to start impeachment proceedings. I would ask Nancy Pelosi if she thinks the country is worth it? It is Nancy Pelosi who is not worth it. As I see it Nancy Pelosi is totally worthless. The democrats scored a great victory over the republicans by winning control of the house. The very first thing the democrats did after winning control of the house was to throw it all away by electing this idiot speaker!

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  18. From the article: "Others argue that failing to impeach would effectively signal to this president and his successors that serious misdeeds will be tolerated by a legislative branch fearful of political consequence." Yup, that's my argument. Let's not sit around doing nothing like the German's did with the rise of Hitler".

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  19. Foolish 11:03am Muellers report states no collusion, the end.
    You can show boat more House investigations and add to the increasing bill of goods on, no collusion, the facts still wont change.
    No one lied except Bill and he was impeached, but refused to go.
    You could to vote to impeach in the House, but on what grounds? What law was broken ?
    The Democrats haven't worked for the American public for years, the narcissistic personality disorder of the leaders keep getting in the way and the youngsters in the party have zero clue in how the Constitution works to protect us.

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    1. You talk to your dog a lot? I can’t imagine anything on two legs would going for this load of manure

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    2. Standard troll BS. Too dumb to realize they’ll never change factually robust minds here. They should stick with their captive, fact-free audience.

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  20. Rugrat 12:26pm chidren should be seen but not heard unless they have a grasp on the reality surrounding them.
    You may muck out with your tall boots on, this still won't change a thing.
    No Collusion.
    Democrats did not want to investigate the break in from Russians with Hillary's computers; fact: Podesta gave his password wings.
    Don't try to place blame where it does not belong.
    The Mueller report was very detailed.
    Democrats are still trying to figure out how this billionaire reality t.v. star won the White House; "they" just don't get it.
    MAGA in 2020 and beyond.

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    1. Russians have a hard time with American idioms, don't they?

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  21. That dirt bag and his crime family can be impeached for 'being or talking stupid' so do not let the fat mouthed republicans, RNC or GOP dogs in heat try to tell you other wise, now on to another dirt or pervert d-bag. https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20190423/judge-kraft-day-spa-video-to-be-released-after-case-resolved

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  22. With more glaring facts popping up about a vain and foul mouthed piece of uneducated adderal infected trash, https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-meets-with-Twitter-CEO-at-the-White-House-13789622.php

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  23. When a (djt) insider says he has to go then it's really past due for this ripe old dictator has to go! https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Former-Trump-transition-team-member-says-it-s-13788659.php

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  24. Sanders admitted lying like DOG under oath to Mueller's investigators that she made a series of false statements to the press after Trump fired FBI director James B. Comey in May 2017. Sanders told Mueller that her comment that "countless" FBI employees had told her they supported the president's decision was "a slip of the tongue. https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/What-to-do-about-Sarah-Sanders-White-House-13786445.php

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  25. T-rump is said to be an a rage at Mar-a-Lago because cable news keeps showing a picture of him as a weak leader who everyone ignores...

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  26. Iowa GOP Legislator leader says Good Freaking Bye to the Republican party in 2019. https://apnews.com/901cd7d5f3874e27955e111f02b1cbfd

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  27. Good news about a former U.S. President, https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/obama-boulevard-unveiling/ But there is a catch what road will receive (djt) name? The one leading to his Federal Prison cell.

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