Thursday, May 30, 2019

Mueller Aftermath: There is nothing left of the "No Collusion - No Obstruction" lie except the smell of burning bullshit

Mod: In one very precise 10 minute statement Robert Mueller blew away months of cover up and lies from Trump/Barr. There is nothing left of the "No Collusion - No Obstruction" lie but the smell of burning bullshit.

David Corn: Mueller Reminds the Nation That Trump Betrayed the USA (Mother Jones link): Much of the immediate commentary following special counsel Robert Mueller’s surprise press conference on Wednesday focused on his damning statements about President Donald Trump’s actions that potentially could be charged as obstruction of justice—if Justice Department policy did not prohibit the indictment of a sitting president.

But Mueller’s remarks were also a reminder of the core elements of the Trump-Russia scandal: Moscow attacked the 2016 election to help Trump, and Trump assisted Vladimir Putin’s assault by claiming at the time (and afterward) that it wasn’t real. That is, whether or not Trump had criminally colluded with Russian operatives, he did side with a foreign adversary that attacked American democracy—and that’s treachery.

Mueller began his statement by reiterating what has already been stated by the US intelligence community, Democratic and Republican members of Congress, and his own report: Putin “launched a concerted attack on our political system.” He noted the Russians “used sophisticated cyber techniques to hack into computers and networks used by the Clinton campaign. They stole private information and then released that information through fake online identities and through the organization WikiLeaks. The releases were designed and timed to interfere with our election and to damage a presidential candidate.”

The Kremlin’s goal was to impede Hillary Clinton and, consequently, boost Trump. And, Mueller added, “a private Russian entity engaged in a social media operation where Russian citizens posed as Americans in order to influence an election.”

In other words, there is no Russian hoax. This is no Deep State concoction cooked up to subvert Trump’s campaign or his presidency. The attack was real. It was significant. And there was a compelling need to investigate it and any contacts between Trump associates and Russians.

Yet during the campaign, Trump and his lieutenants repeatedly denied the Russian attack was under way. As soon as the Democratic National Committee publicly announced its servers had been penetrated by Russian hackers, the Trump campaign claimed this was a “hoax” devised by the DNC itself. After Democratic emails swiped by the Russians were dumped by WikiLeaks right before the Democratic convention in July 2016, Donald Trump Jr. and Paul Manfort, then the campaign chairman, went on news shows and denied this had anything to do with the Russians. (Only a month earlier, they and Jared Kushner had attended a meeting with a Russian emissary whom they were told was bringing them dirt on Clinton as part of a secret Kremlin scheme to help the Trump campaign.)

Even after the intelligence community briefed Trump in mid-August of that year and informed him that Moscow indeed was behind the hack-and-dump operation, he continued to say in public that there was no reason to blame the Russians for this intervention. At the first presidential debate, Trump huffed, “I don’t think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC…It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK? You don’t know who broke into DNC.” He kept this up after the Obama administration a few weeks later officially declared Russia was culpable.

Comments like these must have signaled to Russia—a foreign adversary trying to subvert an American election—that the Trump campaign was just fine with its underhanded efforts. (After the DNC emails were posted around convention time, Trump publicly called on Russians to hack Clinton: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.” And, according to Mueller’s report, hours later, Russian hackers targeted Clinton’s servers.)

Mod: The rest of David Corn's excellent analysis is available at the link.

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65 comments:

  1. White House 'asked Navy to hide warship USS John S. McCain'

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48456742

    The White House asked for a warship named after Donald Trump's late rival, Senator John McCain, to be obscured during the president's trip to Japan, several reports have claimed.

    Plans to move the USS John S. McCain out of view are said to have later been scrapped by senior Navy officials.

    Mr Trump denied making the request, tweeting that he "was not informed about anything" related to the ship.

    The Navy Chief of Information also posted to say it "was not obscured". The tweet - its first in five years - added that "the Navy is proud of that ship, its crew, its namesake and its heritage". However, the statement did not deny that an initial request was made.

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    1. What a coward
      Cowards easily become traitors

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  2. The Right's narrative is changing after Mueller's statement yesterday.

    1) "tHe RuSshEr ThInG iS a CoMpLeTe hoKeS".

    I doubt that we will be hearing that the "Russia investigation was a complete hoax started by 12 angry Democrats" too much anymore.

    2) "Completely exonerated" seems to be changing to "innocent until proven guilty".

    Give it a few days. I think that Trump was severely injured yesterday by Mueller's statement. And yes, I realize that all of this was in Mueller's report, but it somehow took hearing it from his lips to make a difference.

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  3. Cool your shit. That was the most epic mic drop I've ever seen from a prosecutor.

    That was actually much more brutal and more confrontational than I thought Mueller would be when I heard he was talking.

    Take-aways:

    1. The OSC found evidence of a criminal cover-up by Trump

    2. The DoJ rules the OSC operated under prevented them from charging Trump directly

    3. The DoJ as a body is not competent to investigate and charge the President (in general I actually agree with this)

    4. Congress is. Crimes were found and elucidated in the OSC's report, and that report could not predicate those crimes. Mueller made clear the only limit to their predication of crimes was that a sitting President cannot be charged. 2 + 2 = ?

    5. This was, seriously, much harsher than I expected Mueller to ever be publicly. He has basically taken the mantle of an independent prosecutor rather than a special counsel, and has come as close as he can to formally recommending impeachment.

    Don't let the blowhards fool you. This was a devastating thing for Trump.

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  4. Nothing left but reality and time to take permanent action now.

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  5. Fat Barr lied to Congress. Impeach him as well.

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  6. A word of warning to those who smell burning B.S. coming from ANY republican - ask if they have a permit to look and smell like that in public? Looks like more lies that were spread by the 'communist B.S. burners' aka GOP, RNC and the republican party. https://www.politicalgarbagechute.com/projections-show-u-s-could-fund-medicare-for-all-for-400-years-charging-1-to-punch-mitch-mcconnell-in-the-face/

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  7. "If we had confidence the President did not commit a crime, we would have said so." - Robt. Mueller

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  8. Mueller just told Congress to do their effing jobs and impeach the MF.

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  9. Spread the shame of Trump and his supporters, enablers, and apologists.

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  10. Lol Tattler. As usual you have things backwards, pretty amusing for the rest of us. Everything in time.

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    1. So Trump and Barr are exposed as liars and you think that is a victory?

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  11. Congress, the FBI, CIA, and NSA have to act and act fast to try to prevent Russia from meddling in our elections again.

    Republicans won't act because they know they need Russia's help to get the popular vote LOSER and themselves elected again.

    They also know that defending against Russian interference will require further investigation of exactly how Russia helped Trump, which may well lead to the necessary evidence that tips the scales from barely "insufficient evidence" to sufficient evidence to charge and convict.

    Occam's Razor: Innocent people do not engage in protracted, criminal efforts to obstruct an investigation and tamper with witnesses, and then suppress the evidence uncovered by the investigation, unless they are conscious of their own guilt.

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    1. Is it ok to think you’re nuts?

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    2. remember that trumps top five closest advisors went pleaded guilty and went to jail for being foreign agents

      Obama told the truth
      Trump lied (again) and you keep falling for it

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    3. Trump is lying up a storm today. The problem for him is very few people take any of his BS seriously anymore.

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  13. "Republicans won't act because they know they need Russians help" AND you know Hillary Rodham Clinton won't help because Russia has her 3 million emails that she tried to bleach bit and smash up with a claw hammer so no one would know of her yoga work out routine!

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    1. How does this let Trump off the hook? Are ypu going to bring up other politicians from the past as well? Any news on Grant or Harding?

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    2. This troll sucks.

      3 million wasn’t the number of emails, it was the number of votes Hillary won by.

      Another troll fail

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    3. You have no idea how much joy it brings to so many people who know that Hillary is on your mind and the minds of your kindred deplorables 24/7!

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    4. Has she fallen down drunk today?

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    5. Why are Trumpies such assholes?

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    6. Because we're tired of listening to your bullshit!

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    7. 2:46 is having a sad.

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  14. So how much money did Mueller make off of his reports? After all he said he knew in the beginning that there was no laws broken, but he continued for another year and a half of investigations.

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    1. He was paid a salary. He earned the money.

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    2. Mueller never said that no laws were broken, 9:13. You are either uninformed or lying.

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    3. Nice try, kid.

      But you FAILED.

      We need better trolls

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    4. The trolls here are mostly whattabout wingnuts.

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    5. That’s all you got?

      Let me help: Maybe Mueller had a fight with someone named Donald in elementary school and never got over it so he’s taking it out on the pu**y grabber.

      Feel free to use that verbatim.

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  15. the president can’t obstruct justice He is justice. Also complaining about a hoax investigation and asking for it to stop because you know you aren’t guilty is not obstruction. This is why the DOJ concluded there was no obstruction after reviewing muellers bullshit work.

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    1. I think you are confusing Donald Trump and Benito Mussolini. But I’m not surprised.

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    2. So then why did they bother to investigate bill clinton?

      You are a worthless fraud

      No justice until you are in jail too

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    3. The president is Justice? Put down the Marvel comic books, Heathcliff.

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    4. Clinton admitted to lying under oath. That’s why he was impeached.

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  16. Such a crazed and foolish person 12:03PM you must be confusing America with your homeland of Communist fatherland & motherland! While your getting ready to leave for your commie country take that filthy pervert (djt) and his associates of crimes with you, they fit better into your commie society.

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    1. English is not your first language, Vlad.

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  17. The president and the president alone is responsible for executing justice.

    The unitary executive theory is a theory of American constitutional law holding that the President possesses the power to control the entire executive branch. The doctrine is rooted in Article Two of the United States Constitution, which vests "the executive power" of the United States in the President

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    1. It is a legal theory and not in practice. Liar Barr is a big fan, but that is hardly a credible reference. So is Brett Kavanaugh, another fudgepot. Fortunately the United States is still a Republic whose govt is a system of checks and balances. Otherwise the fat madman in the White House would possess dictatorial power, which would be a worldwide disaster.

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    2. It's not just a theory. It's accepted constitutional law. Barr only has the powers that have been delegated to him by the President. Trump could order Mueller criminally investigated tomorrow and no one would be able to stop it.

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    3. Congress makes laws. They have no power to enforce those laws. That power resides in one person , the President. It does not reside in "independent" agencies. The constitution does not allow any "independent" government entities.

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    4. So let’s say the top executive, any president, commits a crime. You cool with that? Just roll over and bite your pillow?

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    5. Sounds like what he does when Handsome Vlad Putin stops over.

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    6. It is impossible for the President while he is in office to be tried for a crime. He could order the death of 1 million people tomorrow and it wouldn't be a criminal act if it was an exercise of executive power. This is why he needed no reason to fire Comey, because he and he alone decides who he delegates his powers to. The President can however be removed by 2/3rds of the Senate, after a trial. Do you think the Senate is going to do that?

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    7. No, the Senate is not going to do that, but the complicit Senators will be exposed and disposed.

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  18. The FBI, CIA Department of Justice, the entire Defense Department,etc. are part of the executive branch of the government and their power to lawfully take any action is completely derived as a result of the powers given only to the President. Congress passes laws that they must obey but the person who decides if a law has been broken and prosecutes you for it is someone whose legal power is delegated to them by the President. The President can override any action or decision of any executive branch employee at any time. This is why it is impossible for the President to be criminally tried for any crime while he is President and why the President cannot obstruct justice. He is justice.

    They are not "independent".

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    1. Congress has oversight of the Executive branch. Which is why the Tangerine Madman is going to get his fat ass impeached. Go away, dude. You’re becoming a bore.

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    2. Impeached..so what. Removed from office...never happen.

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    3. I guess there is no such thing as disgrace in your low standards world.

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  19. And if you want to accuse him of "high crimes and misdemeanors" for complaining about a 2 year russian hoax that he always knew was a lie then be my guest. Go ahead and impeach him for it and send it to the Senate. You'll lose the House in 2020, and with do nothing weasel Paul Ryan gone, Trump will get everything he wants. In the election following Clinton's impeachment, the republicans lost a net of 4 seats in the senate. Go ahead, impeach.

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  20. "The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America." Singular..."President". Everyone else in the executive branch is legally an underling of the President. Comey may lie and claim the FBI is "independent" but it never has been and if it acts "independently" of presidential authority then it is operating illegally.

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    1. So you are cool with his top five advisors pleading guilty and going to jail ?

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  21. Best politician in the state: http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/this-adorable-golden-retriever-has-served-as-the-mayor-of-a-southern-california-town-since-2013/ar-AAC9MO5?ocid=ientp

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  22. Is Julian Assange a journalist? What is WikiLeaks? Is Chelsea Manning a Traitor?
    Will they both be jailed together in the White Collar prison for Elites where all bad reporters go?

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    1. How many “bad” reporters have been jailed? Are you sure you are not confusing the United States with your country?

      BTW: Assange is behind bars mostly due to a rape charge. Not writing newspaper articles.

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    2. Assange didn’t just report but actively assisted in cracking passwords for secret docs. But you know that even if you can’t process the distinction.

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  23. It’s just a miserable time to be a so-called right wing conservative. Their entire party is imploding with a leader heading for impeachment. Can it get any worse ?

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  24. No it gets better! President Trump has shared with the President of Mexico that he is ready to impose terriffs on all goods coming into the United States from Mexico and will increase monthly until more is done about Mexico attempting to stop or slow way down on illegal immigrants crossing through their country while attempting to reach the U.S. HOORAH HOORAH.

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    1. That will fall upon the shoulders of American consumers in the form of higher prices. It is basically a tax increase levied because Trump’s white nationalist base hates anyone who is not like them.

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    2. The parents of that white nationalist base will pay a lot more due to tariffs next time they refurnish the basement for junior.

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    3. Hoorah, the ‘terriff’ sherif is back in town...

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    4. Oh good! He's terriff!

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  25. The bald face and head fact is (djt) is an insane arsonist liken to Nero of old. His methods of operation are quite simple burn it all to the ground and championed as a hero for putting the fires out he started int he first place. https://www.sgvtribune.com/2019/05/30/trump-hitting-mexico-with-5-tariff-in-response-to-migrants/

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