Wednesday, January 18, 2012

It's the Same Old Tricks at Sierra Madre News.Net

File this under "Sierra Madre: Politics As Usual." Bill Coburn, about as partisan a blogger as you will find anywhere (though in that passive-aggressive sort of way that so typifies those of his partisan stripe), has now posted his first claim against the campaign of MaryAnn MacGillivray. It took about five hours after her filing to happen and, like everything else he has thrown at her in the past (which is a considerable amount), is entirely without merit. What makes this particular incident even more absurd than most of his past shenanigans is that after spending an enormous amount of effort making his case, he then confesses that it is entirely baseless. Which makes you wonder why he bothered to raise the issue in the first place.

Here Bill raises what he apparently hopes will become yet another time-wasting and attention diverting controversy based on nothing:

Editorial, posted 1/17/12 - I was contacted by a reader today who asked me why it is that nominations for our April 10, 2012 election were closed to day for races in which an incumbent was running and tomorrow for races in which an incumbent is not running, when the governing code calls for five days difference. As I started looking into it, I discovered that there are others in town who shared the same concern as the reader that contacted me. The reader pointed out that the Government Code section on elections, which governs our election, states that nominations are due by the 88th day prior to the election, which was last Friday, if incumbents filed papers, and if an incumbent didn't run, the residents had another five days to file nomination papers for a seat in which an incumbent was not running. This would seem to indicate that incumbents needed to file their nomination papers by last Friday, not today, as announced by City Clerk Nancy Shollenberger on Dec. 17, 2011.

Bill then goes on to post, and in all of their glorious entirety, three different Election Codes on the matter supposedly in support of this baseless canard. All of which you can read by clicking here.

So what is the answer to all this? It is very simple. City Hall was closed last Friday. Just like it was also closed on Monday. This was a 4 day weekend for those folks. Something that anyone with even a modicum of sense would have considered before cooking this nonsense up. Of course, a modicum of sense being something sorely lacking in whatever persons raised this canard in the first place. Names that Bill does not cite in his editorial, probably in hopes of insulating them from the effects of their own intellectual paucity.

At the bottom of his article, and after futilely expending hundreds words to establish some sort of validity for the case, Bill then explains why it is a load of nonsense. And, of course, he does this with the usual gratuitous slap at Nancy Shollenberger. Something that seems pro forma for Bill.

Note that all three of the above sections reference either "normal business hours" or "regular business hours." City Clerk (and election official) Nancy Shollenberger usually works by appointment only, and does not keep regular hours at City Hall (an issue in the 2008 election campaign), so there may be some gray area here, particularly if it can be shown that she has kept appointments outside of City Hall's posted hours. But since "by appointment" hours are kind of nebulous, using City Hall's posted hours seems like the logical course of action. Since City Hall was closed on Friday, over the weekend, and on Monday for the holiday, normal business hours ended on Thursday, prior to the 88th day, and began again this morning. So it seems that "normal business hours" in this situation ended at 5pm today.

First let's deal with the slap at our City Clerk. Like all of the elected officials currently serving, Nancy is not a salaried employee. Neither the Mayor nor the Mayor Pro Tem keep full time office hours at City Hall, and our two remaining City Council members do not as well. The reason being that all are volunteers, with most of them holding down full-time jobs. And while Nancy does receive some small remuneration for business costs and the long tedious hours spent transcribing things like meeting minutes, it is a mere fraction of the $150,000 or so that is paid to our City Manager. And good luck seeing her without an appointment.

The only reason why this nonsense became "an issue in the 2008 election campaign" was because Bill made it an issue by writing about it on his site and elsewhere, and more than once. All in support of Karma Bell, a then candidate for City Clerk that Bill supported quite vociferously at that time.

In a previous article posted by Bill on his site yesterday there was an allusion to this cooked up controversy over the City Council candidate filing timeline. I called Nancy Shollenberger and, after a few laughs on the topic of "usual suspects," she explained the care she took in establishing campaign candidate filing dates. This question had occurred to her, and she specifically raised it with Martin & Chapman, the recognized experts on all things election law. And they confirmed that because both Friday and Monday were dark days at City Hall, the due date for a filing such as MaryAnn's was yesterday, January 17.

As in so much of the nonsense coming from that quarter, it turns out that there is nothing behind it. And while I am certain those usual suspects will still try to get some traction with this one (the lack of reality thing has never slowed them down before), anyone with a modicum of sense will know that this poor little canard was dead on arrival.

It would be nice if we could have an election based on discussions about the real and very serious challenges that the City of Sierra Madre is facing right now. But apparently for Bill Coburn tall tales about bogus controversies that even he confesses are completely without merit seem to take precedence. And that is very unfortunate. We deserve so much more than a steady diet of nothing.

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54 comments:

  1. Nobody can tell a story quite like Rooster Coburn.

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  2. So the Develop to Preserve folks have unleashed their first 2 campaign strategies. The first is Glen Lambdin's family values, the second some cooked up hash about filing deadlines and clerking. Those are pretty weak -must just be to warm 'em up. Practice smears.

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  3. They need to fill the heads of Buchanan's acolytes with nonsense. Which takes about two teaspoons and 5 minutes to accomplish.

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  4. I would like to see an unbiased debate by the candidates.
    Give all the candidates three critical issues facing Sierra Madre at the present time, give them the questions in advance, allowing each one to give their solutions, with plenty of time to give it their best thinking?
    5 minuet replies. Give the voters a chance to hear their positions on the real issues here in Sierra Madre.
    We attended a forum at Kiwanis in 2008, it was moderated by Clem Bartolai. Don't know if Clem would moderate the above forum idea, and of course it would have to be something held in the early evening when all working people could attend. Possibly Sierra Madre School auditorium or the Rec Center?
    Of course have the other forums at City Hall and Kiwanis as always.
    Anyone think this would work?

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  5. Is Mr. Coburn saying that someone was going to file who couldn't because they missed a deadline? I don't get the point.

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  6. If you want to understand The Rooster, first you would have to understand the layout of his "newsnet." Good luck.

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  7. After watching the complete disinterest of the Council and city managers in cutting costs, and are totally incapable of doing anything but raise taxes as the only way to deal with the budget,
    I will vote only for council people willing to streamline and cut regulations, and taxes.
    The G3 have been totally inept.
    A change in leadership is a must.
    It's unfortunate we have to endure 30 more months of the Walsh, Moran disaster.

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  8. Rooster wants people to think that MaryAnn's filing might have been too late. There is no truth to this, of course, which even he admits. But he thought he would raise it anyway. You know how Rooser is.

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  9. Kiwanis is NOT a very good forum for a debate.
    The candidates should turn down any invitations from them.
    They proved themselves to be anything but unbiased.
    The club is run and controlled by Henderson, who by her own admission, is pushing a pro development agenda, and endorsed Walsh, Moran, and Mosca,
    The "disaster triplets".

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  10. Diane, not to make light of your suggestion, and not to criticize any of the candidates, but maybe giving the candidates 5 "minuets" instead of 5 minutes of talk might be wonderfully revealing. I think watching Mosca dance would have revealed more than his lying words ever could have.

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  11. Not unlike the "who wants gum?" ploy in grade school or was it the sophisticates at junior high? You put out you hand for the proffered stick of gum and it was yanked out of you reach with a snide laugh. This is the level of Coburn's article on the filing dates...trumped up questions of controversy masquerading as serious reporting (notice I did not call it journalism).

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  12. Coburn is great at creating controversy out of thin air.
    I can just see that as the main political argument in the next election.
    Perhaps to see if Maryann is a TRUE resident or not would fly, or whether she is an illegal alien.

    Keep being stupid Coburn, it's the best you can do.

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  13. I wake up every morning wondering what will happen to city if after the election it is run by Josh Moran and Nancy Walsh. That alone should strike horror into the hearts of anyone who loves Sierra Madre.

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  14. Would it be about time for the Kiwanis to be having their own election and unseat Pres. Henderson?

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  15. I agree with 7:53, Kiwanis is incapable of having a level playing field for a candidate's forum.
    It should be avoided.

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  16. 7:55 - just as long as it isn't a 5 minute cha cha.

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  17. The power of the local corrupt print media...just watch who Henderson endorses! It will be done as a last minute city-wide "throwaway" actually paid for by your tax dollar and mine via city legal notices.

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  18. Never give a sword to one who cannot dance.

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  19. Are you sure Bill's a rooster? Because it looks to me like he just laid an egg.

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  20. Somehow I think Cha Cha and Sha Na Na are going to be reduced into their deserved insignificance after the election.

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  21. Former 3 time Mayor MaryAnn MacGillivray did well at the 2008 Kiwanis forum, and the city hall forum.

    She has a fantastic record to run on and is a master at the debates.

    Debate MacGillivray at your own risk.

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  22. I see it's starting upJanuary 18, 2012 at 8:26 AM

    Misinformation and lies, it's all a big smoke screen that the local rags put out. The Coburns and Hendersons in town can be found in the cities day clubs that meet during the week. These two people who call themselves writers are just playing to these groups. It is so obvious Coburn and Henderson write to make their candidates look good and to heck with the truth. The good side here is when the readers know what's going on it just makes the papers look like the dirty little rags they are. Makes me want to get involved so we can talk about the real issues that face our community. I thought when Clem Bartoli was on the council he wrote an ordinance banning all roosters in town, why is Cobun still here?

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  23. For all the candidates..No one deserves to turn their effort into a target for dirty tricks.

    Saying that one side seems to have been the target of dirty tricks time and time again and needs to be better prepared this time.

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  24. Clem was the author of the term limits and used by the no on measure v bunch which he later admitted to me. Clem was a good city councilman.

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  25. I still haven't read anything or even seen a picture of Eugene Goss. Nobody I've spoken to has even heard of him. Do we start calling him Eugene Ghost?

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  26. Soon some one can post the candidate's statements that are part of their filing...this will be the first look at their stated intent. All the campaign literature will come flooding after. Let's see whom is true to their message. The filing statements are usually pure and straight forward.

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  27. Don't know if anyone has heard, but the Police Department is going to make some big announcements this morning about the Matheson and EVG cases.

    (Just kidding ...)

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  28. 8:38
    Problem is we have another Mosca on our hands....maybe two.
    We have two candidates who will be for big government/big development.
    At least one will lie about that fact. Clue.....he's Josh Moran's roomate.

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  29. Just to keep the questions moving forward and get off the who lives where distration--let's see who knows if the renter (not room mate) candidate has actually moved to another set of digs. Which I would expexct he would have to if Brown Act violations were not going to be a constant question.
    Won't vote for him no matter, but let's focus on the real.

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  30. who are you suggesting is the other one?

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  31. Hey all you Harabedian bashers...you seem to have very short memories. He walked weekend after weekend with Crawford, gave a coffee for Watts and MacGillivray. Is this a Mosca in disguise? I think not!

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  32. 9:27
    Harabdian's family gave a coffee for Craword, Watts and Alcorn.
    MaryAnn was not running...although the canyon gang, Packer, Dapper, Morans,Buchanan were slandering her right and left, along with their pals on the Sierra Madre fire dept. Add Henderson to that bunch.
    Harabedian's weakness in this election is the fact he hasn't been in Sierra Madre much for the past 8 years. He's been getting a very expensive education.
    He is likely....note likely to vote big government/big development if he gets on the city council. Any other positionality may hurt his chances of advancing his political career in the Democratic Party.
    That said. I would prefer him to Braudrick. Colin Braudrick has been groomed by the Mosca Buchanan, Doyle crowd for the past two years to get on the city council.
    He has numerous red flags.
    I wouldn't vote for him, ever.

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  33. I think Diane Shear's idea is excellent and something that is missing from local politics in general. A debate, held in an unbiased forum, would be a wonderful opportunity for the public to view the candidates and to engage in the process.
    With that said, the key is an unbiased forum and I prefer a format where questions are fielded from the public without prior screening from either a particular group or candidate.

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  34. The Harabedians have been great supporters of slow growth candidates over the years. Loyal and generous to a fault. Whoever is bashing John Harabedien needs to stop now. It is wrong and frankly depressing. You might support somebody else, and that is certainly your right. But you are doing damage to your own cause. People will figure out who you are bashing on behalf of, and hold it against your candidate.

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  35. Gilman,
    That would work.

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  36. Hasn't been here the past 8 years? The man has lived here since birth, went to school with my kids at St. Ritas...he's a member of my church. We're holding it against the kid because he's well educated? Funny...almost hysterical.

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  37. Eugene Goss is a politicalm science professor at Long Beach City College. Very mixed reviews on "Rate My Professor.com." His "Hotness Factor is 0%."

    Click on My Name.

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  38. Hunh. Goss's students say he is either a libertarian or conservative.

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  39. Rate my Professor is one of those sites you need to use a lot of discernment with. But it's clearly stated, by a student that seems to know, that Goss is a libertarian. That would be something new in the mix!

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  40. I can't see Buchanan getting all arm and fuzzy over someone with real Ron Paul Libertarian viewpoints. That would hardly be the kind of centralized corporate state government he likes.

    Then again, I was canvasing during the last election and knocked on the door of a couple belonging to the Libertarian Party. Or at least that is what the voter registration sheets said. Turns out they were hardcore Mosca supporters. A guy whose own political philosophy is about as far from Libertarian tenets as you can get.

    Humm, I say.

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  41. Maybe Goss is an outlier. Just some fellow who doesn't know very many people, but being a political science professor decided to put his theories to work in a real election? Kind of flies in the face of what we've been hearing here.

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  42. This is why an open debate like Diane Shear suggests would be such a good idea.
    Focus on the issues, not the rumors.

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  43. Positionality, 9:48 am? Really? Positionality? Anything after that just underlines your posturing as some sort of political wonk making up words. Admit it: Harabedian and Brauderick are Democrats and your platform is Republican sweetened with Tea Party.

    Positionality indeed.

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  44. Did city council run over the planning commission with the Meaglia mansion?

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  45. You need to read this article to see one of the main reasons why the state is in the bad shape it is in, and why on a micro scale, we should not support developer welfare in Sierra Madre:

    http://www.citywatchla.com/lead-stories/2716-now-its-the-publics-turn-to-kill-off-the-cra

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  46. 12:32, you're a couple of articles behind. Look to the column on the right and click on
    Meaglia-Mania, and John Buchanan Hangs It Up

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  47. 9:27, I was at the Harabidian "coffee," and to call it a coffee is a joke. It was the biggest event put together for Pat and Don during the whole campaign, as I went to most of them. Probably were 100 people. Were you even there? Do you know what you're talking about?

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  48. Don Watts!

    Thank you for posting that link to the article. Please everyone, copy, paste and read that link.

    Don, you are the best friend Sierra Madre ever had.

    Thank you for your years of sevice to Sierra Madre.

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  49. Es serio? No!~ Es no posible!

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  50. Thank you, Don, for posting link to article re CRA deception, corruption and abuse in Los Angeles. The Supreme Court gave us the best Christmas gift we could have asked for by abolishing the CRA (developer welfare) although I'd like to see the DA's office go a step further and prosecute those in government positions who participated actively, knowledgeably in such practices and fine them heavily to recompense the city somewhat for the damage done.

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  51. A new study reveals that the "average" salary for City Managers in California is around $200,000. Thats without Bell's Rizzo jacking it up!

    City Managers are fleecing the tax payers of our fair state by a staggering amount. We just don''t need them enriching themselves and facilitating the enrichment of their cronies, and consultants at our expense. Its really bad and corrupt.

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  52. I may not be well versed in the letter of the law or "codes," but I do know if some things are right or wrong. There's something definitely wrong and definitely not right the way the g3 likes tax hikes, lie to the public & then smear good and honest people, not to mention actual spoken threats"...and we can take you out!" during cc mtgs. Are these the kind of people you would let take care of your kids or pets or elderly??? I THINK NOT!!!!! Anyone that openly displays these character flaws obviously can't be very smart & gets their direction from a sinister puppeteer. Injunction and recall, anyone???

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  53. To Don Watts, Thanks for that link, I wish everyone in town would read it.

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  54. Cheaters never prosper.

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