Tuesday, January 18, 2022

Trump’s Treatment of Pence During Capitol Riot Was Even Worse Than We Knew

Mod: You do know, it appears that Trump really did want to see Pence hung on Jan 6.

Trump’s Treatment of Pence During Capitol Riot Was Even Worse Than We Knew (New York link): New information about the January 6 mob attack on the Capitol reveals that former president Donald Trump sent a tweet admonishing Mike Pence for lacking the “courage” to try to overturn the election a few minutes after he learned his vice-president was in physical danger from a mob he instigated.

The revelation comes from Alabama senator Tommy Tuberville, whom Trump called on January 6 in a desperate bid to halt the certification of electoral votes. That phone call (which Trump accidentally made to Senator Mike Lee, who then passed the phone to Tuberville) was already public knowledge before this week, and had figured into Democrats’ impeachment presentation as an example of Trump’s indifference to the riot he helped cause. 

But Tuberville added new detail on Wednesday night, telling reporters that during his conversation with Trump, he told the president that security had just taken Pence out of the chamber for safety purposes.

Pence was removed from the Senate chamber at 2:14 p.m. Tuberville’s recounting of the conversation would mean that Trump knew about the chaos that was unfolding when he sent a tweet ten minutes later complaining that “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution.” Given Trump’s cable-news addiction, it was already highly likely that he’d been tracking the riot’s progress. 

But now we know with more certainty that Trump was fully aware of the danger facing his vice-president as he continued to rage about Pence’s supposed disloyalty. (The fact that Pence couldn’t have done anything about the election results even if he had wanted to didn’t dissuade Trump from attacking him.)

The fury Trump directed at his vice-president was manifest in the cries of the mob, who shouted “hang Mike Pence!” as they barreled into the Capitol. There is no indication that Trump ever inquired about Pence’s physical safety or well-being during or after the deadly siege.



  1. They’re Too Extreme for QAnon — and Right at Home at Trump’s Rally

    Michael Protzman tells his followers that JFK Jr. and other dead celebrities are helping Trump catch a global cabal of pedophiles. Saturday night, he was seated with the VIPs.


    The nut doesn't fall far from the tree.

  2. Representative Matt Gaetz's ex-girlfriend granted immunity in sex trafficking probe

    Prosecutors granted immunity to an ex-girlfriend of Representative Matt Gaetz before she testified last week in front of a federal grand jury hearing evidence in the investigation of the congressman, according to a source familiar with the matter.

    Gaetz has been under investigation to determine if he violated sex trafficking laws and obstructed justice in that probe. Gaetz has previously denied all wrongdoing, and has said he has never paid for sex nor had sex with an underage girl.

    The woman, who CBS News is not naming to protect her privacy, testified in front of a federal grand jury in Orlando last Wednesday. She is viewed as a potential key witness, according to two sources familiar with the investigation. One of the sources said she has information related to the investigation of both the sex trafficking and obstruction allegations.


    She must have had some interesting things to talk about.

    1. “This may be a willing participant who has a smart lawyer who sought an immunity deal from the government,” said former prosecutor and CBS News legal analyst Rikki Kleiman. “The government does not give immunity blindly, they know what they’re getting in exchange.”


  3. Fake GOP Electors Could Face Nearly 20 Years in Prison Over Election Forgery: Michigan AG

    “I will say that under state law, I think clearly you have forgery of a public record, which is a 14-year offense, and election law forgery, which is a five-year offense. But what we have decided to do with the investigation, in light of the fact that of course we have seen … various different false slates of electors from several different states, in what seems to be a coordinated effort between the Republican parties in various different states, we think this is a matter that is best investigated and potentially prosecuted by the feds.”


  4. Pence’s team is now cooperating with the Jan. 6 committee: report


    I guess it is now Pence's turn to hang Trump.

    1. Pence will never be POTUS. Might as well take revenge for sending his dogs on him. Tell your people to spill all.

    2. There goes his dream of being the first gay president.

    3. Teflon Don has a 100% escape prosecution record... the number of investigations and lawsuits against him is truly mind-boggling... yet.... every day he plays golf and eats cheeseburgers... outside of prison. I just don't see this changing, no matter how many things we read about that seem behind bars time is imminent.

    4. Timing is everything. Why arrest his fat ass when the political benefits are not as great? September, when the 2022 midterm elections come into focus, would be ideal.

    5. If timing was everything, he would have been removed during his presidency so we could have made half an effort to save our country.

    6. You might recall that the anti- democracy party worked hard to cover for the big orange tot all through two impeachments.

      Do you need memory care?

  5. Donald Trump-Loving Republicans Celebrate MLK Day And Get Told Where To Go

    Donald Trump-devoted Republicans were slammed for hypocrisy for their tributes to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. on the MLK Day holiday on Monday.

    House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) Rep. Lauren Boebert (Colo.), Sens. Lindsey Graham (S.C.) and Josh Hawley (Mo.), and former White House press secretaries Kayleigh McEnany (now a Fox News host) and Sarah Huckabee Sanders (now a Republican candidate for Arkansas governor) all praised the slain civil rights icon on Twitter on the annual celebration of his legacy.

    But their tributes rang hollow for many people, given their defense of Trump’s racist rhetoric and GOP efforts at voter suppression.


    1. If you think Republicans are shameless hypocrites for quoting Martin Luther King, Jr. yesterday—just wait until they go back to quoting Jesus again today.

    2. “White privilege doesn’t mean your life has been easy. It just means the color of your skin hasn’t made it harder.”

      - Jimmy Kimmel

    3. A big chunk of the Republican party doesn’t believe in Democracy anymore.

    4. People in general have the same sentiment. WHo can blame us??

    5. I think people in general can blame you. There’s no excuse for attacking democracy.

    6. Can't blame me - i'm doing my part. I just finished a great book "the attack from within" it explains a lot. I wake up every day, go to work, pay my taxes, and generally don't complain, but goddamn this world has turned crazy. I don't attack democracy. I got out of my way to be nice and helpful. I laugh along with Jimmy Kimmel. I whooops...

  6. ALL a bunch of criminals.

    Online sleuths identified a Proud Boy at the Capitol riot by matching his face to an old photo of him modeling underwear, report says

    A 28-year-old man who is accused of involvement in the January 6 insurrection with the Proud Boys was identified by social media detectives thanks, in part, to a photo of him modeling underwear on a catwalk, according to HuffPost.

    Alan Fischer III, also known as AJ Fischer, was arrested in Florida on Friday.

    He is charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding an officer, violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, and civil disorder, among other offenses, court records show.

    According to his arrest warrant affidavit, Fischer was seen in footage marching with the Proud Boys on January 6, 2021. Screenshots of videos included show him throwing traffic cones, chairs, and a pole towards a line of police.


    1. Sounds like teh dude is holding down some great jobs

  7. A Florida Republican who was defeated by 59 percentage points in a congressional special election won't concede.

    The Republican Jason Mariner hasn't conceded in Florida's 20th District special election House race.

    Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, a progressive Democrat, beat Mariner in a 79%-20% landslide.

    Mariner filed a lawsuit before the election was called, telling CBS Miami "stuff" was "discovered."

    A Florida Republican who last Tuesday lost a congressional special election by a landslide in a heavily Democratic district has declined to concede the race,
    In the wake of Trump's defeat in 2020, Republicans across the US have raced to implement voting restrictions, fueled by Trump's widely debunked claims of mass voter fraud.


  8. A Capitol rioter who pleaded guilty this week compared January 6 to a 'modern day Boston Massacre' and said Ashli Babbitt was 'viciously assassinated'
    They all should spend 5 years in prison.!

    Meteer was identified several times by the FBI walking through the Capitol in security camera footage carrying a homemade sign that said: "Save the Republic."

    The FBI arrested him on August 10, 2021, and found 10 firearms with ammunition in his home — an assortment of shotguns, handguns, bolt action rifles, and revolvers, per court filings.

    A criminal complaint filed against him by the FBI in August sought to press four different charges related to his entering of the Capitol grounds, but a guilty plea agreement signed by Meteer mentioned only the sole count of parading, demonstrating, or picketing in a Capitol building, according to court documents filed last week.

    He faces up to six months in prison and must pay $500 in restitution for damage to the Capitol.


  9. Republicans In Disarray As Trump Trashes Ron DeSantis

    One constant theme of Trump’s presence on the national political stage is his fear of fair elections. Trump is afraid to let Republican voters have a choice in the primary, just as he is trying to rig the 2024 election to return to the White House.


    Trump will run 3rd party if DeSantis is the GOP nominee. Just watch.

    1. We can watch two clowns outclown each other

  10. Senate Democrats believe there is a good chance the Department of Justice will prosecute former President Trump for trying to overturn the results of the 2020 election and inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, which would have major political reverberations ahead of the 2024 presidential election.


    1. yeah I'll believe that crap when it comes true... too much talking, not enough prosecuting... this is the story of the past 5 years.

    2. Stock up on popcorn now. Shortages are expected.

  11. Communist Russia is afraid of former stooge countries turning away from Communism and its failed promises, must be republicans?
    Russia cannot 'tolerate' NATO's 'gradual invasion' of Ukraine, Putin spokesman says.

    "Unfortunately, the opposite thing started to happen since then, and NATO's military infrastructure started to get closer and closer to the borders of the Russian Federation," he added, saying that recent actions by the U.S. military led Russia to feel that its national security was being "endangered."

    Peskov, a career diplomat and longtime Putin spokesman, accused NATO of being a "weapon of confrontation" rather than a "dove of peace." Russia has demanded a guarantee that Ukraine not become part of NATO, which it says would be a severe threat to its security.
    "At first, they were just words, but with the time being, we have seen the gradual invasion of NATO into Ukrainian territory, with its infrastructure, with its instructors, with supplies of defensive and offensive weapons, teaching Ukrainian military, and so on and so forth. And that brought us to the red line. That brought us to the situation when we - when we couldn't tolerate it anymore," said Peskov.


  12. US faces wave of omicron deaths in coming weeks, models say.

    The fast-moving omicron variant may cause less severe disease on average, but COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. are climbing and modelers forecast 50,000 to 300,000 more Americans could die by the time the wave subsides in mid-March.

    The seven-day rolling average for daily new COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. has been trending upward since mid-November, reaching nearly 1,700 on Jan. 17 — still below the peak of 3,300 in January 2021. COVID-19 deaths among nursing home residents started rising slightly two weeks ago, although still at a rate 10 times less than last year before most residents were vaccinated.


  13. Dan Crenshaw Withers Under Questioning From Young Woman, Gets Booed at Conservative Event.

    The first part of the question is inaudible, but Newsweek reports that Parkinson’s video picks up right after the woman claims Crenshaw “lied about being Christian.”

    “I can’t wrap my head around this,” the woman says after reading Crenshaw’s quote about Jesus and hero archetypes back to him.

    “I’ll help you,” Crenshaw snaps. “Put a period after ‘Jesus,’ and don’t question my faith.”

    The crowd then erupts in a chorus of “wows” and boos. “Don’t question my faith, don’t question my faith,” Crenshaw says again, to more boos, and, at the end, a confusing chant of “Let’s Go Brandon,” just to round out the fever swamp bingo card.


  14. He dedicated years of his life to QAnon. One day made him question it all.

    At first, it seemed like a gathering of MAGA supporters with elderly people and babies in strollers in tow, but it had become something else at the Capitol. Justin’s video recordings of the afternoon, shared with NBC News, show people climbing the scaffolding erected for Biden’s inauguration. Competing chants rang out through multiple megaphones: “Stop the Steal” and “Fight for Trump.” Justin’s voice can be heard in some of the videos softly joining in for “USA, USA.”

    Then a cry of “Charge!” came from out of nowhere, and people in the front, some in combat gear, began slamming up against the guardrails, facing an outnumbered and seemingly rattled police line. Police officers sprayed the mob with pepper spray as Justin filmed a few feet away. Someone menaced, “There’s a reason they call it a thin blue line!”

    “I saw their eyes change,” Justin said of the crowd. “You know, when somebody gets really angry, and you just feel like they’re going to go nuts?”

    “I feel like I was watching people get radicalized.”

    A few Trump supporters pleaded with the crowd to stop pushing and were quickly overruled. The throng began to push forward. A few in the crowd managed to wrestle away parts of the gate from police, and Trump supporters filed up the stairs. At the top, some draped the Capitol steps with an oversized flag that read, “Trump.”

    The mob, the flag, the violence. Justin thought: It didn’t feel right.

    “It got me,” he later said. “I was supposed to be a part of a movement, but did I just get duped?’”



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